Southern Hiring

[gringo]

Are cmi contracts somewhat risky from a crew's perspective? I figure once the deal ends, the company has little to lose aside from the income, but the pilots, especially junior ones are on the hook for a furlough.... Is that a fair assessment of cmi contracts?

Unfortunately, my Crystal Ball is in the shop undergoing repairs and upgrades.

As soon as I get it back I'll let you know!

 

[Atccfi]

Unfortunately, my Crystal Ball is in the shop undergoing repairs and upgrades.

As soon as I get it back I'll let you know!

Haha!!! That's great. Let me know when you get it back, I've got lots of questions, in case you hadn't noticed!!
I wasnt asking for a prediction, I'm just not that familiar with CMI ops, and was just wondering what the risks associated with them are from a crew members perspective...

 

[swordfish]

do these tDo we know yet where and for whwo new ones will be flying? I think I read they were for dhl, but not sure. Will they be for more cvg-bah-hkg-cvg flying or something different? And the TNT contract are mostly dxb turns, right? Thanks.

answer can be found here
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/01/402...dditional.html

 

[swordfish]

Are cmi contracts somewhat risky from a crew's perspective? I figure once the deal ends, the company has little to lose aside from the income, but the pilots, especially junior ones are on the hook for a furlough.... Is that a fair assessment of cmi contracts?

TNT 777 goes back to TNT crews in april, the hiring the company is doing now is for the 2 new 777 that come in march and april. the current hiring Has nothing to do with TNT aircraft. SA will only have 4 777 tell 2013.

 

[swordfish]

http://www.aircargonews.net/News/Ethiopian-signs-Southern-ACMI.aspx

16-Nov-2011
ETHIOPIAN Airlines has become the first customer of Southern Air’s new 747-400 freighter fleet after signing a multiple-year ACMI [aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance] agreement.
Operations are scheduled to begin in early January 2012.
“Our future fleet will be comprised of Southern Air wet-leased 747-400 freighter aircraft and 777F aircraft leased/owned and operated by Ethiopian. This investment in both wet lease and dry lease/owned aircraft by Ethiopian is a strategic plan that will position us as one of the premier cargo operators in the world,” Ethiopian Airlines’ chief executive officer Tewolde GebreMariam stated.
The 747-400SF marks the second milestone of Southern Air’s fleet enhancement following the initiation of 777F service in 2010. Southern Air is the only carrier to offer the 777F for ACMI services.

 

[johnsonrod]

If you want to spend time in Addis Ababa, bid the 400! Probably an interesting place...

 

[swordfish]

If you want to spend time in Addis Ababa, bid the 400! Probably an interesting place...

Addis really isn't that bad, on the classic half the time your layover was spent in Europe. plus there free golf to the SA crews. and nice hotel pool.

 

[johnsonrod]

Addis really isn't that bad, on the classic half the time your layover was spent in Europe. plus there free golf to the SA crews. and nice hotel pool.

I am sure it is more interesting than Ft. Wayne and Harrisburg!!!!! Yeah, those layovers BLOW after the first or second time. I'd be interested in a tour around Addis - I am sure you can find some cool historic sites.

 

[hvydriver]

Addis really isn't that bad, on the classic half the time your layover was spent in Europe. plus there free golf to the SA crews. and nice hotel pool.

Free golf?!?! Now, there is a bennie! (I mean that seriously, being a golf nut.)

 

[swordfish]

Free golf?!?! Now, there is a bennie! (I mean that seriously, being a golf nut.)

you have to tip your caddy and pay for your golf balls, but the the hotel provides the golf clubs, and free green fees.. you can also work on your tan pool side.

 

[johnsonrod]

What's the latest word on fleet assignments for newhires? Are the 744 FO slots becoming available yet for newhires? For the next class (January?), what would be the "likely" fleet mix for newhires considering the 400s, 777s and Classics?

Also, what are the typical backgrounds of recent newhires in terms of experience and hours? Other freight dogs? Regionals? Legacy furloughees? Corporate/fractional? Any trends in terms of backgrounds?

 

[KingAirKiddo]

777 staffed for now. Most recent class were all assigned 400. Haven't heard of any more classic classes in the works. Most new hires have a variety of different backgrounds and experience from all of the above so one size does not fit all. Total times from 3500a to 10,000 plus...

 

[swordfish]

777 staffed for now. Most recent class were all assigned 400. Haven't heard of any more classic classes in the works. Most new hires have a variety of different backgrounds and experience from all of the above so one size does not fit all. Total times from 3500a to 10,000 plus...

two more 777 classes around the first of the year, furloughing FE's In Jan 8th and most classes will be 400' from here on out.

Sword

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Hadn't heard about the additional 777 classes. Thanks for the info...

 

[Atccfi]

When we were in Norwalk doing indoc, we were told we were going to be the last 777 class for a while and to enjoy being on the bottom of that list.... with +/- 120 on the jan bid sheet I'd say we are staffed on the 77 for up to 5 planes according to the staffing model per plane.... That may all change of course, who knows. Sword has been here much longer and probably has better insight into things....