So what is going on over at FLOPS
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skyismyoffice
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I think he's just trying to stir things up.
johnsonrod
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Question about Legacies
Slightly off topic. Do your Legacies fly over to Europe and Hawaii much (a relative term in this economy) or do they mainly fly just within North America/Caribbean? Can an Options owner with a Legacy share book it to Maui or would they need to rent something else from Sentient, etc. to get there?
Slightly off topic. Do your Legacies fly over to Europe and Hawaii much (a relative term in this economy) or do they mainly fly just within North America/Caribbean? Can an Options owner with a Legacy share book it to Maui or would they need to rent something else from Sentient, etc. to get there?
993_Pilot
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They could , and do go in a legacy or a C-X.
ProFracPilot
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For all who have not listened to Silvestro's Weekly Message, I suggest you do so.
FUD or progress?
FUD or progress?
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I listened to it, and here’s what I heard when I called 1 888 291 3828 #3:
Negotiations for the final issues will take a long time. We are not going to use Ford and Harrison anymore. They are bad guys. We’ll continue stalling, but we just won’t use them.
We don’t foresee anyone being hired back anytime soon, but we don’t foresee any more layoffs. So, here’s everyone’s chance to forget the guys that are gone and think about how lucky you are to have a job.
We’re giving back some of the stuff we stole from you, to further cloud your memory about why you are still trying to get a contract.
We’re going to give you new uniforms for the umpteenth time. This time we’re including shoes and belts. How many times do we have to give you clothes and food to make you give up on the idea that you should have a voice in what we have planned?
Jeesh! Have a nice day.
993_Pilot
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Sounds about right !
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TurboHonda nailed it.
FLOPS Management is patting themselves on the back for returning benefits they stole from us years ago. All in an effort to give the mere appearance of a "spirit of cooperation" with the union.
Give me a break.
The pilots at Netjets received their large pay increase in late fall of 2005.....the rest of the industry followed suit. We are still waiting for a raise!
FLOPS Management is patting themselves on the back for returning benefits they stole from us years ago. All in an effort to give the mere appearance of a "spirit of cooperation" with the union.
Give me a break.
The pilots at Netjets received their large pay increase in late fall of 2005.....the rest of the industry followed suit. We are still waiting for a raise!
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To Jetwash,
I agree. The pay needs to be close to industry standard or my vote will be no.
Its almost 4 yrs now with no pay increase.
In fact, we all took a 6% pay cut in February with the loss of the company 401K match. That cut will continue to have an impact down the road, assuming the stock market recovers.
They needed to come up with the funds to pay for all those expensed crew meals!! We'll just take from the employees and give it back to them (expensed meals) and congratulate ourselves, AGAIN, for being such generous managers!
FLOPS 10YR PIC $77,000
Industry Average $120,000
I agree. The pay needs to be close to industry standard or my vote will be no.
Its almost 4 yrs now with no pay increase.
In fact, we all took a 6% pay cut in February with the loss of the company 401K match. That cut will continue to have an impact down the road, assuming the stock market recovers.
They needed to come up with the funds to pay for all those expensed crew meals!! We'll just take from the employees and give it back to them (expensed meals) and congratulate ourselves, AGAIN, for being such generous managers!
FLOPS 10YR PIC $77,000
Industry Average $120,000
ProFracPilot
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After the President's Weekly Message and the warning shot it contained, I can't imagine anyone voting "yes" first time around.
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What about all the laid-off guy's.....This thing had better have some provisions to bring back some of them!!!!!
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There is a large block of pilots who are planning on sending a message to the union leadership and the company that they will not accept a sub standard pay in the contract. It is well organized and getting bigger every day.
Many of the furloughed guys who are able to vote will be adding their NO votes to the contract since they have nothing to lose at this point only the chance of an industry standard pay package when they return to their jobs.
I just hope our Union leadership gets the message and informs the company how pissed off the pilots are and will probably vote NO if they don't come up with a competitive pay package.
Many of the furloughed guys who are able to vote will be adding their NO votes to the contract since they have nothing to lose at this point only the chance of an industry standard pay package when they return to their jobs.
I just hope our Union leadership gets the message and informs the company how pissed off the pilots are and will probably vote NO if they don't come up with a competitive pay package.
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