Skywest PHX flying

[brokedash]

OO will open its crew base in PHX on 1/1/12 for the CRJ 200 flying it will preform for US. Does anyone know how many planes will start on the first day and how long it will take to replace all the YV flying?

 

[cbrown1]

15 a/c flying starts to a few cities next.

 

[bmpilot2003]

It was uped to 18.

 

[cbrown1]

It was uped to 18.

Oh really? Must have missed that memo.

 

[brokedash]

Did they bump it to 18 for spare coverage?

 

[amcnd]

Flying starts dec 16th. (with 3 aircraft) Base opens Jan 1. 75 ca's 75 fo's . Captains go from Senior guys down to 6.5 year guys.. FO's senior 6 years to almost newhires..

 

[bmpilot2003]

Oh really? Must have missed that memo.

Don't know why but Skywest is also pulling CRJ-100s out of the desert for this. Maybe they get really good lease rates on the old ones?

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

OO will open its crew base in PHX on 1/1/12 for the CRJ 200 flying it will preform for US. Does anyone know how many planes will start on the first day and how long it will take to replace all the YV flying?

You guys are getting 38 900's ? I think that is what Mesa has, so you would need that to replace our flying. Wish you luck with that. Your days are number with the 100+ 200's

 

[RJLoser]

You guys are getting 38 900's ? I think that is what Mesa has, so you would need that to replace our flying. Wish you luck with that. Your days are number with the 100+ 200's

Think OP is one of your guys.

 

[Erlanger]

Word is that Skywest will have 300 crews by spring of 2013 in PHX.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You guys are getting 38 900's ? I think that is what Mesa has, so you would need that to replace our flying. Wish you luck with that. Your days are number with the 100+ 200's

When Messa gets the contract cancelled, those 900s will have "operated by Skywest" stickers as quick as the mechanics can razor blade the Mesa stickers off. This industry sucks!

 

[FightingIrish]

When Messa gets the contract cancelled, those 900s will have "operated by Skywest" stickers as quick as the mechanics can razor blade the Mesa stickers off. This industry sucks!

Why does it suck if Skywest gets these airplanes? Skywest pays more than Mesa does. Do you work for Mesa?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Why does it suck if Skywest gets these airplanes? Skywest pays more than Mesa does. Do you work for Mesa?

The Mesa guys have families to feed. I work at SKYW and hate to see anybody(except gheyjhets pilots) lose their jobs/seniority. This industry is brutal.

 

[Erlanger]

The Mesa guys have families to feed. I work at SKYW and hate to see anybody(except gheyjhets pilots) lose their jobs/seniority. This industry is brutal.

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

 

[Nevets]

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

That would be the right thing to do for employees but we all know that is not the way it usually works. But there is always optimism.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

SKYW won't be happy until those planes are flown by 2nd year Captains, new hire F/Os fresh out of a 152. We will indeed see, the Freedom/DAL case will play predominantly in every Mainline CEO wettest dream...

 

[Terantious]

That would be the right thing to do for employees but we all know that is not the way it usually works. But there is always optimism.

Merge my ass...all those Mesa/Freedom guys bragging how they took the Comair flying causing Comair furloughs. What about those guys families? Pretty sure the Mesa guys could care less. Getting the flying is one thing but to brag about it really displayed SOME of the Mesa/Freedom pilot mentality.

Merge sure, they can merge with the Expressjet/ASA side as long as they are stapled to the bottom.

 

[amcnd]

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

They tried that. Mesa pilots and company did"nt want to play the game.. So USair and Skywest said we will do it another way. Thats what your seeing..

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

They tried that. Mesa pilots and company did"nt want to play the game.. So USair and Skywest said we will do it another way. Thats what your seeing..

By operating old 100's in PHX with no APUs, at a loss. Sounds great. Enjoy the summer heat.

 

[amcnd]

By operating old 100's in PHX with no APUs, at a loss. Sounds great. Enjoy the summer heat.

Well im not, nor will i be PHX basesd. But this is SkyWest were talking about. Im not saying we never defer a APU. But they seem they do the right thing and get them fixed fast. (in the summer)

 

[Nevets]

Merge my ass...all those Mesa/Freedom guys bragging how they took the Comair flying causing Comair furloughs. What about those guys families? Pretty sure the Mesa guys could care less. Getting the flying is one thing but to brag about it really displayed SOME of the Mesa/Freedom pilot mentality.

Merge sure, they can merge with the Expressjet/ASA side as long as they are stapled to the bottom.

What does this have to do with what I posted?

 

[AntiJedi]

at a loss.

Do you know something the execs already haven't figured out yet?
Please do tell!

 

[nimtz]

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

Yes I'm sure Jerry will be more then happy to bring more outsiders into his super happy flying club...

 

[mesaserf]

Do you know something the execs already haven't figured out yet?
Please do tell!

Yes.

They will be operating at a loss of around 600K a month when it is all said and done. Overall it will be less than if they left the CRJ100/200's in mothballs.

So I have been told... FWIW.

 

[AntiJedi]

So I have been told... FWIW.

Not that I doubt your Xth-hand information, but with how OO has been buying older frames that've been sitting in storage, or even straight off another airline via straight cash, or possibly even getting some really sweet lease deals to keep them flying, they seem to be pretty much copying Allegiant's strategy here---except using their aircraft on a full schedule.

Cheap planes make low cost, and throw them away when done.

 

[XPOO]

Yes.

They will be operating at a loss of around 600K a month when it is all said and done. Overall it will be less than if they left the CRJ100/200's in mothballs.

So I have been told... FWIW.

And that's fine because SkyWest made $6M off it's pro-rate flying last quarter, plus they are making very good money off Alaska at the moment. All SkyWest needed was a foot in the door at US Airways. But as a Mesa guy, I'm sure it sucks to be beaten at your own game.

 

[amcnd]

Is SkyWest was willing to fly at a loss, we would still
Be flying the 6 planes that are going to Gojet...

 

[XPOO]

Is SkyWest was willing to fly at a loss, we would still
Be flying the 6 planes that are going to Gojet...

After the money OO sunk into those planes to get them all up to snuff (ACARS/WiFi/FMS) consider it a loss anyways.

 

[Erlanger]

Folks, in spite of what one or two flamebaiters, who have no clue are saying on here, Skywest is not flying the U.S. Air stuff at a loss. Skywest doesn't have nor has ever had planes that were mothballed. Skywest has sold off planes that they owned outright or gave back planes when their leases were up. Skywest got great deals from other regionals who had planes that were mothballed. Yes, it's costing them money to retrofit the planes with ACARS, etc but that's pocket change to Skywest. I think Skywest's record on making money speaks for itself.

 

[amcnd]

After the money OO sunk into those planes to get them all up to snuff (ACARS/WiFi/FMS) consider it a loss anyways.

No wifi on those planes.. Anyway Delta pays for that. Im pretty sure FMS is standard on all CRJ's. ACARS yes. Its a 50k mod. But they usualy pull the unit out.