Skywest PHX flying

[Nevets]

Merge my ass...all those Mesa/Freedom guys bragging how they took the Comair flying causing Comair furloughs. What about those guys families? Pretty sure the Mesa guys could care less. Getting the flying is one thing but to brag about it really displayed SOME of the Mesa/Freedom pilot mentality.

Merge sure, they can merge with the Expressjet/ASA side as long as they are stapled to the bottom.

What does this have to do with what I posted?

 

[AntiJedi]

at a loss.

Do you know something the execs already haven't figured out yet?
Please do tell!

 

[nimtz]

So how about Skywest buys Mesa, pilots and all and integrates the seniority lists. Feel better now?

Yes I'm sure Jerry will be more then happy to bring more outsiders into his super happy flying club...

 

[mesaserf]

Do you know something the execs already haven't figured out yet?
Please do tell!

Yes.

They will be operating at a loss of around 600K a month when it is all said and done. Overall it will be less than if they left the CRJ100/200's in mothballs.

So I have been told... FWIW.

 

[AntiJedi]

So I have been told... FWIW.

Not that I doubt your Xth-hand information, but with how OO has been buying older frames that've been sitting in storage, or even straight off another airline via straight cash, or possibly even getting some really sweet lease deals to keep them flying, they seem to be pretty much copying Allegiant's strategy here---except using their aircraft on a full schedule.

Cheap planes make low cost, and throw them away when done.

 

[XPOO]

Yes.

They will be operating at a loss of around 600K a month when it is all said and done. Overall it will be less than if they left the CRJ100/200's in mothballs.

So I have been told... FWIW.

And that's fine because SkyWest made $6M off it's pro-rate flying last quarter, plus they are making very good money off Alaska at the moment. All SkyWest needed was a foot in the door at US Airways. But as a Mesa guy, I'm sure it sucks to be beaten at your own game.

 

[amcnd]

Is SkyWest was willing to fly at a loss, we would still
Be flying the 6 planes that are going to Gojet...

 

[XPOO]

Is SkyWest was willing to fly at a loss, we would still
Be flying the 6 planes that are going to Gojet...

After the money OO sunk into those planes to get them all up to snuff (ACARS/WiFi/FMS) consider it a loss anyways.

 

[Erlanger]

Folks, in spite of what one or two flamebaiters, who have no clue are saying on here, Skywest is not flying the U.S. Air stuff at a loss. Skywest doesn't have nor has ever had planes that were mothballed. Skywest has sold off planes that they owned outright or gave back planes when their leases were up. Skywest got great deals from other regionals who had planes that were mothballed. Yes, it's costing them money to retrofit the planes with ACARS, etc but that's pocket change to Skywest. I think Skywest's record on making money speaks for itself.

 

[amcnd]

After the money OO sunk into those planes to get them all up to snuff (ACARS/WiFi/FMS) consider it a loss anyways.

No wifi on those planes.. Anyway Delta pays for that. Im pretty sure FMS is standard on all CRJ's. ACARS yes. Its a 50k mod. But they usualy pull the unit out.

 

[XPOO]

No wifi on those planes.. Anyway Delta pays for that. Im pretty sure FMS is standard on all CRJ's. ACARS yes. Its a 50k mod. But they usualy pull the unit out.

Delta is paying all the reposition costs, crew costs, cancels due to no spare aircraft? Those planes will have WiFi on them before they are handed over to GoJets. They don't get them until February, and all the mods have to be done by end of January.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Well im not, nor will i be PHX basesd. But this is SkyWest were talking about. Im not saying we never defer a APU. But they seem they do the right thing and get them fixed fast. (in the summer)

You are kidding right? Chipaway's, way is the deferred way. Everything is on the deferred list!

 

[SSDD]

Never mind!

 

[amcnd]

Last night is a good example. APU would'nt start. They realy wanted to fix it. They were trying everything. After 30 mins later "I said lets just MEL i"t.. And get these people there ontime.. And us to the overnight.. They made sure to route the airplane to a MX base the next day to fix it... Does that always happen.. No. But this is"nt MESA.

 

[jetfueljunkey]

Last night is a good example. APU would'nt start. They realy wanted to fix it. They were trying everything. After 30 mins later "I said lets just MEL i"t.. And get these people there ontime.. And us to the overnight.. They made sure to route the airplane to a MX base the next day to fix it... Does that always happen.. No. But this is"nt MESA.

The problem isnt just a mesa issue... its a crj 200 issue... they werent designed to run 16 hours a day 7 days a week. since mesa has gotten rid of most of/almost all of the 200's the apu isnt an issue anymore. the 700/900's have a much more reliable apu and are very rarely defferred. Good luck in phx OO!