skybus is so cheap......

[HA25]

I stand corrected on the lic, but clearly the requirements to get one aren't the same as an A&P or Pilot, or do you disagree?

as for calling me a Scab.. shame on you, I doubt you've been in this industry to know what that is.. And from the looks of your profile, I take it you work for JetBlue.. talk about the pot calling the kettle black! The WN and B6 guys in this thread that are piling on are beyond me! I can see the Legacy pilots being a bit miffed as their airlines fell victim to the LCC phenomenon..

What did Jet Blue pay their 1st year CA's when they started out? I recall well below $100K was the rate..

And I'd rather dress like a Park Ranger than some gay Kenneth Cole model!

 

[WateryGrave]

And I'd rather dress like a Park Ranger than some gay Kenneth Cole model!

Thats Virgin America with the gay black uniforms, but whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better yogi.

 

[HA25]

Thats Virgin America with the gay black uniforms, but whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better yogi.

No VA's black is 10 times better than the JB gay blue with the kenneth cole (DAL FA style) shirts.. That's GAY!

And my house is bigger than yours, my watch more expensive and my cars a lot nicer! So there! nanie nanie na!

What a bunch of childish brats this profession is filled with!

 

[HA25]

and anyone that's got to list every plane (including the little pipers) he's flown in his profile has a small penis syndrome if you ask me! I'll match my resume up against yours anytime. I was hired at American when you were still flying RJs, so don't lecture me and start throwing out scab like some old school ALPA guy..

 

[FLYfishin]

Hey Boo-Boo, let's all relax and get some picnic baskets!

 

[HA25]

I'm not the one throwing rocks thru a glass house.. In the years I've been on this form it went from a place to get good gouge on what / who is hiring and helping out a brother.. to flame, hate and attack.. I saw it with the AirTran / JB guys when the were hiring and everyone was furloughing and I sadly even fell into it.. Time to stop and act like a grown up, at least I will try.

 

[say again]

Whatever people decide to do is their business! As much as I disagree, b!tch and moan, curse, humiliate, disrespect, etc., its not gonna change the fact that this is how things are gonna be. I think its pathetic, but to convince others is impossible, and thats been proven over and over again. So good luck to all. I'm now on the corporate side of things and I'm never looking the other way, HOPEFULLY!!!!!:beer:

 

[FLYfishin]

Cumbya!!!:beer:

 

[EngineOut]

HAHAHA a dispatcher makes more then the FO's. Thats how cheap that chit bag place is. They are so cheap the crew has to pay for any drinks consumed.

There was a time when your Dispatchers started out getting paid more than your FOs at Flex

 

[jaybird]

Can we get back on track here.

skybus is so cheap, FMS-Speed has to do pilot cheerleading on flightinfo.com

 

[WateryGrave]

and anyone that's got to list every plane (including the little pipers) he's flown in his profile has a small penis syndrome if you ask me! I'll match my resume up against yours anytime. I was hired at American when you were still flying RJs, so don't lecture me and start throwing out scab like some old school ALPA guy..

Hey Yogi, do you have to go back and sell ipods when you take breaks to go to the lav?? Oh wait, they didn't put lav's on those airplanes, had to make room for extra seats. Just issue everybody diapers at the door. Is it fun wearing your park ranger outfit? Did you go to FFDO school so you could get a gun and complete the look? Now that would be even sexier than my Kenneth Cole FA shirt!

 

[HA25]

this article says it all.. this thread could be written about any airline..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/travel/20pracalacarte.html?8dpc

 

[bgaviator]

Hey Yogi, do you have to go back and sell ipods when you take breaks to go to the lav?? Oh wait, they didn't put lav's on those airplanes, had to make room for extra seats. Just issue everybody diapers at the door. Is it fun wearing your park ranger outfit? Did you go to FFDO school so you could get a gun and complete the look? Now that would be even sexier than my Kenneth Cole FA shirt!

*Yawn*

 

[PCL_128]

A captain making $90g at the beginning of his second year sure is a lot better than one waiting 18 years to make captain.. (USAir).

Umm, why don't you just go to a place like AirTran, SWA, or Frontier? Upgrade isn't 18 years, and the first year FO pay isn't poverty wages as it is at the legacies.

Here's a comparison of pay after the first 5 years. This uses current payrates at common credit times of about 85 hours for SWA, Frontier, and AirTran, and optimistic Skybus pay based on working a bunch over guarantee:

SWA Frontier AirTran SkyBus

Y1 62k 47k 53k 40k
Y2 98k 74k 66k 84k
Y3 108k 83k 71k 86k
Y4 118k 87k 77k 88k
Y5 129k 143k 130k 90k

Total: 515k 434k 397k 388k


As you can see, there is no financial advantage whatsoever in going to work for Skybus, even when you consider the 12-month upgrade. Since the CA pay is so absurdly low at Skybus, working as a copilot at SWA and Frontier pays more, and it's not that much less at AAI with an 8 year old contract that's about to be improved, probably next year. The stock options that you tout are a bigger gamble than you'll find on the Vegas strip, especially since there aren't even plans for the company to go public yet.

Several CAs at Pinnacle interviewed at Skybus, one that even lives in CMH and currently has to commute to DTW, and they all turned it down after getting offered the job because it just didn't make sense. A checkairman at a crappy regional like PCL makes as much money as a Skybus CA. Captains at good regionals like ASA, Skywest, and ExpressJet make far more.

Anybody who goes to work for Skybus should have their medical revoked due to mental health concerns.

 

[Bighorn]

No VA's black is 10 times better than the JB gay blue with the kenneth cole (DAL FA style) shirts.. That's GAY!

And my house is bigger than yours, my watch more expensive and my cars a lot nicer! So there! nanie nanie na!

What a bunch of childish brats this profession is filled with!

I am gay and really offended by FMS. Does that make me a childish brat?

CMH here I come move over Clarrett.