Sign of the times - Martha Stewart leaves Netjets for Talon Air

[G4dude]

Fixed it for you.

Good point, although I submit lawyers are not trained to manage companies. Like accountants, they are risk averse, and do not do well with cost benefit analysis.
Cheers!

 

[fischman]

gunfyter & fischman...both of you are class guys for your views on this matter...whether it is written or not, the rule is never talk about you passengers, let alone use their names

Thanks. I'm disappointed that our fellow aviators fail to see that. One of the things our customers pay for is anonymity. NEVER use a name.

 

[acaTerry]

Thanks. I'm disappointed that our fellow aviators fail to see that. One of the things our customers pay for is anonymity. NEVER use a name.

My reply was tongue-in-cheek for those who didn't know....
Even though she's no longer our customer, the hush hush should still apply.

 

[CE750Driver]

Good-then go hang out in the regionals forum.

Then put it this way. If you post a story about and NJA passenger by name. And anyone finds out who you are. You will be fired. Fact.

Now, morons. Keep it coming and hope the anonymity of FI keeps you safe.

Unbelievable.

 

[OPECJet]

Then put it this way. If you post a story about and NJA passenger by name. And anyone finds out who you are. You will be fired. Fact.

Now, morons. Keep it coming and hope the anonymity of FI keeps you safe.

Unbelievable.

As it should be. Hard to enforce that on those not receiving a paycheck however.

Might be why they sent out that ethics booklet or whatever it was I threw in the trash right after they furloughed us....

I completely agree with not discussing who we flew, or who still flies furloughed or not. The only difference here is this person started advertising for the competition. We've been hearing from various sources that owners are leaving. The point in this thread is there's tangible proof. The sidebars going along, personal stories shouldn't be here, but an owner leaving (ANY OWNER) should cause some alarm. If management was doing it's job this thread wouldn't exist.

 

[learflyer]

Old and busted....fractionals.
New hotness........luxury charter.

 

[Sammy]

I don't feel we should be discussing passengers on this board.

U r assuming these people work for NJA and have actually flown these people although i do agree with u.

 

[ksu_aviator]

I've heard from people at Flight Options (she used to be there) about her "bitchiness". I'm betting NJA was glad to see her go, if they didn't just kick her out all together.

 

[Downwind]

I like the dig in the video about how Martha likes to know the names of the pilots who fly her around. Clearly a dig at Netjets and their "army" of pilots.

If the bitch would quit throwing the catering at the crew she could look up on the galley bulkhead and read the crews name.


Sent from a Confederate encampment

 

[glasspilot]

I have to believe NetJets has provisions in owner contracts that prohibit the owners from doing this sort of thing. Don't all fracs require the owners to act civil towards the crews?

I remember a story of a pax peeing on the tire while the crew (Captain) was loading bags. The pee splattered and the Captain got peed on. He (rightfully) shut the operation down right there and the company stood behind him. I don't care how much they pay...they don't get to pee on us and they don't get to throw things at us or curse us out.

Sooo...NetJet's has this sort of protection right? Share owners don't get to throw catering at the crew as Downwind suggested, right?

 

[BentOver]

I seem to remember a story about a pax (actress or pop singer) throwing something small (non dangereous) up into the cockpit out of frustration. I heard she got a nice talking to, and an altimatum essentially convincing her NOT to ever let it happen again.

NJA (atleast under RTS) always had the pilots back. atleast in my time

 

[OPECJet]

I have to believe NetJets has provisions in owner contracts that prohibit the owners from doing this sort of thing. Don't all fracs require the owners to act civil towards the crews?

I remember a story of a pax peeing on the tire while the crew (Captain) was loading bags. The pee splattered and the Captain got peed on. He (rightfully) shut the operation down right there and the company stood behind him. I don't care how much they pay...they don't get to pee on us and they don't get to throw things at us or curse us out.

Sooo...NetJet's has this sort of protection right? Share owners don't get to throw catering at the crew as Downwind suggested, right?

I thought it was a Falcon capt who peed on the tire....

 

[Nolife]

I remember a story of a pax peeing on the tire while the crew (Captain) was loading bags. The pee splattered and the Captain got peed on. He (rightfully) shut the operation down right there and the company stood behind him.

Was the owner a midget? Given the size of fractional airplanes how could the guy, I assume it was a guy, pee on the tires. Even with a geewiz one would have to kneel quite a bit to pee on the tire. That said I agree with you; you can't pee on me without paying extra.

 

[Nolife]

True story..

Doing a flight from Canada we had a minor malfunction that we couldn't take all the way to S. FL.. We landed at a larger city on the US side, within 30 minutes of the malfunction we had another a/c ready to go, customs waiting, and a very happy passenger. (as happy as one could be with an unscheduled stop). He commented that that was the one great thing about being an owner with us.

I'm not sure but I doubt many charter ops could pull that off. Unless of course they flew the broken plane all the way to it's destination

Unfortunately that's what is done most of the time; knew a DO once who actually asked what were the odds of having an accident (very small) so why not press on.

Had a pax ask me once why their airplanes never broke down on the road and ours (nice frac operator) broke sometimes. I explained that we put more time on ours... blah, blah, blah. I wanted to tell him that your pilots want to go home so your planes break at home; where as our crews are on the road anyway so we write up broken airplanes there and then. Which is the safer method?

 

[propsarebest]

Is it true that Martha owes Talon Air 400k?

 

[AnimalMother]

Interdasting

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

The rebranded 'hawker beechcraft' logo on cessna, gulfstream, & sikorsky products??

 

[NachoMamma]

I thought it was a Falcon capt who peed on the tire....

Yes, it was. Funny how these stories change over time.

 

[spg2bmd]

I feel that I want to hear some more Martha stories now.

 

[spg2bmd]

Or, we could talk about how we feel when a customer and their dog get off the aircraft leaving a nice steaming pile of awesomeness there for someone to clean up.
I mean, really? Just let the dog crap right there on the carpet? Sweet.