Sheble Aviation

[G2T]

That's quite correct; post numbers do not imply, nor ensure correctness, nor has any such assertion been made here.

You should always verify what you get here, or anywhere else, including in person. That is your responsibility. If you do receive advice, however, and elect to ignore it, then who have you left to blame?

Avbug, I agree with you, and my post was by no means a knock on you, just the idea of post count equaling truth. I know you said you don't think very highly of Sheble's, and that is fine. I do however become irritated with the outrageous stories about their operation that all seem to be second hand from friends. As you said, you should always verify the info you get on here, or anywhere else.

 

[Grey Ghost]

you guys are amazing. try doing a search on avbug before you shoot your mouth off. the guys a legend around here. 5,700 posts should tell you something. you too grey ghost.

believe me....he didn't attend shelble's. he's been around flying longer than god.

Hey pipers, I think you did one too many turns around a point at UVSC! Shebles is the best bang for the buck! Hands down!!!!!!!!!:smash:

 

[avbug]

My own observations are not second hand, and in fact, come in part from conversations with the owner and resident examiner.

Best bang for the buck, if you're dealing in a foriegn devalued currency and renting poorly maintained equipment and don't expect much in return. If you have your standards set a little higher than bottom of the barrel, you might try looking elsewhere.

 

[G2T]

My own observations are not second hand, and in fact, come in part from conversations with the owner and resident examiner.

I was not speaking of your experience, you said earlier that your dealings were first hand and I don't doubt it. It is things like this that I was referring to:

They have a code word for when the FAA shows up on the ramp. When you hear it fly to another airport and call back for the all clear. I had a buddy up there lose a flap in flight, it just rotted off (not easy to have happen in AZ).

 

[avbug]

They have a code word for when the FAA shows up on the ramp. When you hear it fly to another airport and call back for the all clear. I had a buddy up there lose a flap in flight, it just rotted off (not easy to have happen in AZ).

That I haven't seen and can't support based on personal observations, but Travelairs filthy with leaking oil an missing on both engines as they depart, I have, and the owner himself told me he advises new pilots to falsify their logs in order to get hired.

 

[G2T]

That I haven't seen and can't support based on personal observations, but Travelairs filthy with leaking oil an missing on both engines as they depart, I have, and the owner himself told me he advises new pilots to falsify their logs in order to get hired.

My first hand knowledge was working there a few years ago. I never had a problem with their airplanes that couldn't happen to anyone with a fleet of planes from the mid 50's on. The travelair was a pleasure to fly, and I trusted them. I was not once hassled when I found a student short on time and had to fly them more to meet requirments or standards. If there was a codeword for the F.A.A. I never got the memo, as I was ramped a couple of times, no big deal. Avbug, you've stated your opinion numerous times and made it very clear, I'm just throwing out another perspective.

 

[BLing]

My first hand knowledge was working there a few years ago. I never had a problem with their airplanes that couldn't happen to anyone with a fleet of planes from the mid 50's on. The travelair was a pleasure to fly, and I trusted them. I was not once hassled when I found a student short on time and had to fly them more to meet requirments or standards. If there was a codeword for the F.A.A. I never got the memo, as I was ramped a couple of times, no big deal. Avbug, you've stated your opinion numerous times and made it very clear, I'm just throwing out another perspective.

I instructed there as well and will agree with the above statement. I was ramped a few times with no problems. I sent many students on observed fed rides in those old Travelairs after training the guy to fly it for 2 only days. NO BIG DEAL! If somebody needed more time prior to their checkride, they received it.

At Shebles there are 3 kinds of information (as stated by Fast Eddie)
1. ******************** you need to know
2. ******************** that’s nice to know
3. And, who gives a ********************

There is no BS at Shebles, they like to stick with the first kind of information as stated above. The training methodology there works. Its maneuver after maneuver, scenario after scenario taught in a building block fashion. I will admit is not for everybody, but for the person who has half a brain and is willing to learn fast, it is the best thing out there. I wish I would have trained at Shebles.

 

[Grey Ghost]

I instructed there as well and will agree with the above statement. I was ramped a few times with no problems. I sent many students on observed fed rides in those old Travelairs after training the guy to fly it for 2 only days. NO BIG DEAL! If somebody needed more time prior to their checkride, they received it.

At Shebles there are 3 kinds of information (as stated by Fast Eddie)
1. ******************** you need to know
2. ******************** that’s nice to know
3. And, who gives a ********************

There is no BS at Shebles, they like to stick with the first kind of information as stated above. The training methodology there works. Its maneuver after maneuver, scenario after scenario taught in a building block fashion. I will admit is not for everybody, but for the person who has half a brain and is willing to learn fast, it is the best thing out there. I wish I would have trained at Shebles.

Las Vegas Approach: "Sheble 2, I thought I told you not to come back into the Vegas class Bravo until that transponder was fixed!"

Sheble 2: " Uhhhh, I thought it was fixed, it just came out of maintenance".:smash:

 

[BLing]

Las Vegas Approach: "Sheble 2, I thought I told you not to come back into the Vegas class Bravo until that transponder was fixed!"

Sheble 2: " Uhhhh, I thought it was fixed, it just came out of maintenance".:smash:

Call sign Sheble when with ATC??? News to me unless on with IFP or HND tower!