Sheble Aviation

[pilot754]

Stay Away

RUN FAR AWAY! STAY AWAY it almost F**** my career for good.
First Officer now with a nice company.

 

[Grey Ghost]

RUN FAR AWAY! STAY AWAY it almost F**** my career for good.
First Officer now with a nice company.

I would'nt exactly call Mesa a nice company!

Just curious, what does Shebs have to do with your career?uke:

 

[NW_Pilot]

I do what I do by choice, and because I love to do it.

What, Being a jerk to others?

 

[NW_Pilot]

For somebody that likes to bash Shebles and preach the importance of gaining experience over time

Only if the experience is obtained by him and no one else! If anyone else tries to obtain an experience he tells them they don't have enough time or experience hahahaha

 

[NW_Pilot]

This was a few years ago. And yes, he was serious. And to put it further, his insistence was on using very scarce trimming of the plane because "a good pilot doesn't need it". But, with his approval, I was permitted to trim the pitch axis ONLY if we were above 1000 AGL (but not to trim ANY axis, at any time ever if we were doing Single Engine work!) because we were high enough to recover, whatever the he!! he meant by that.
Oh yeah...and did you know that exhaust gasses were what changed the pitch of the propellers in turboprops? Boy, I better take the orals again for 2 of my type ratings because I said in the orals that it was oil pressure.
So you see, professor, that it was HIM. BTW, that AK will be hard to shoot when I shove it up your rear end....no need to be hostile.
You work there perhaps? Or a graduate? Did I hurt your little feelings?

Need an AK build it yourself http://www.ak-builder.com

 

[suupah]

I would'nt exactly call Mesa a nice company!

Just curious, what does Shebs have to do with your career?uke:

WEstwind rocks! so says the brot

 

[daviator28621]

go to www.flywhiteair.com best training guys i have ever dealt with.

very generous with flight time, excellent instructors, lodging included.

I got my multi-engine commercial their for $1895 including lodging and I got to fly in actual IMC and I got plenty of time.

You will be happy if you go there.

There are a couple guys doing the career thing and have been there for a couple of months and they love it there. I was only there for 5 days, I love the small town friendly atmosphere, fly day or night.

They want you to do well.
And the examiner is out of topeka kansas and very fair.

 

[acaTerry]

Need an AK build it yourself http://www.ak-builder.com

Those machine guns were from the previous poster that was being quoted. I'm a Browning man myself....

 

[avbug]

What, Being a jerk to others?

If the shoe fits, NW...if the shoe fits. The treatment you get here is something you bring on yourself...but pray tell, what do your comments have to do with this thread? Are you able to address the topic at hand? Can you do that?

Only if the experience is obtained by him and no one else! If anyone else tries to obtain an experience he tells them they don't have enough time or experience hahahaha

You laugh at your own pathetic jokes, then? Being a student at Sheble's certificate mill isn't gaining experience.

You don't have experience. You frequently tell us this. Not enough for the corporate job you want, not enough for your ATP...hardly a need for you to whine about experience issues...and no, you still don't seem able to effectively address the topic at hand; Sheble school of aviation.

You're upset as your "experience" and your efforts are both dangerous and unacceptable, and you're frequently told as much. Your comments are generally unprofessional, immature, and lack the basic wisdom that ought to be expected of a student pilot...you're used as an example on other sites sometimes of foolishness and poor decision making...but you don't see it yourself.

An old saying rings true for you; be careful of scars earned in battles in which you should never have fought. What you call adventure as often as not is really poor judgement wrapped in juvinile self-aggrandizement. Perhaps what should upset you the most is that you lack the experience to have the judgement to know how foolish your comments and actions truly are, and certainly the judgement to forsee that your path may eventually leave an orphan and a widow.

Time to wise up, NW. For you one day, it will be too late.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

First Officer now with a nice company.

In best Borat voice: "NOT!!!!!"

(He quit 2 hrs. before his systems written exam)

 

[G2T]

RUN FAR AWAY! STAY AWAY it almost F**** my career for good.
First Officer now with a nice company.

How did Sheble's almost screw up your career?

 

[mozzer]

I was there

I worked there in june 02-dec.03. Loved it. It is not for everyone I know.

If you can keep up with the schedule, fly 8 days a week, drink coors light regularly....can't beat it.

oh yeah shorts and flip flops 8 months a year. thanks again to val, senior, eddie and the rest of the gang......."the coke machine is broken"

 

[pipers]

Ya Im calling BS on this one wonderboy

you guys are amazing. try doing a search on avbug before you shoot your mouth off. the guys a legend around here. 5,700 posts should tell you something. you too grey ghost.

believe me....he didn't attend shelble's. he's been around flying longer than god.

 

[G2T]

you guys are amazing. try doing a search on avbug before you shoot your mouth off. the guys a legend around here. 5,700 posts should tell you something. you too grey ghost.

believe me....he didn't attend shelble's. he's been around flying longer than god.

I'll shoot my mouth off about whatever I feel qualified to shoot it off at. I don't care how many posts someone has, it doesn't automatically make someone right.

 

[avbug]

That's quite correct; post numbers do not imply, nor ensure correctness, nor has any such assertion been made here.

You should always verify what you get here, or anywhere else, including in person. That is your responsibility. If you do receive advice, however, and elect to ignore it, then who have you left to blame?

 

[G2T]

That's quite correct; post numbers do not imply, nor ensure correctness, nor has any such assertion been made here.

You should always verify what you get here, or anywhere else, including in person. That is your responsibility. If you do receive advice, however, and elect to ignore it, then who have you left to blame?

Avbug, I agree with you, and my post was by no means a knock on you, just the idea of post count equaling truth. I know you said you don't think very highly of Sheble's, and that is fine. I do however become irritated with the outrageous stories about their operation that all seem to be second hand from friends. As you said, you should always verify the info you get on here, or anywhere else.

 

[Grey Ghost]

you guys are amazing. try doing a search on avbug before you shoot your mouth off. the guys a legend around here. 5,700 posts should tell you something. you too grey ghost.

believe me....he didn't attend shelble's. he's been around flying longer than god.

Hey pipers, I think you did one too many turns around a point at UVSC! Shebles is the best bang for the buck! Hands down!!!!!!!!!:smash:

 

[avbug]

My own observations are not second hand, and in fact, come in part from conversations with the owner and resident examiner.

Best bang for the buck, if you're dealing in a foriegn devalued currency and renting poorly maintained equipment and don't expect much in return. If you have your standards set a little higher than bottom of the barrel, you might try looking elsewhere.

 

[G2T]

My own observations are not second hand, and in fact, come in part from conversations with the owner and resident examiner.

I was not speaking of your experience, you said earlier that your dealings were first hand and I don't doubt it. It is things like this that I was referring to:

They have a code word for when the FAA shows up on the ramp. When you hear it fly to another airport and call back for the all clear. I had a buddy up there lose a flap in flight, it just rotted off (not easy to have happen in AZ).

 

[avbug]

They have a code word for when the FAA shows up on the ramp. When you hear it fly to another airport and call back for the all clear. I had a buddy up there lose a flap in flight, it just rotted off (not easy to have happen in AZ).

That I haven't seen and can't support based on personal observations, but Travelairs filthy with leaking oil an missing on both engines as they depart, I have, and the owner himself told me he advises new pilots to falsify their logs in order to get hired.

 

[G2T]

That I haven't seen and can't support based on personal observations, but Travelairs filthy with leaking oil an missing on both engines as they depart, I have, and the owner himself told me he advises new pilots to falsify their logs in order to get hired.

My first hand knowledge was working there a few years ago. I never had a problem with their airplanes that couldn't happen to anyone with a fleet of planes from the mid 50's on. The travelair was a pleasure to fly, and I trusted them. I was not once hassled when I found a student short on time and had to fly them more to meet requirments or standards. If there was a codeword for the F.A.A. I never got the memo, as I was ramped a couple of times, no big deal. Avbug, you've stated your opinion numerous times and made it very clear, I'm just throwing out another perspective.

 

[BLing]

My first hand knowledge was working there a few years ago. I never had a problem with their airplanes that couldn't happen to anyone with a fleet of planes from the mid 50's on. The travelair was a pleasure to fly, and I trusted them. I was not once hassled when I found a student short on time and had to fly them more to meet requirments or standards. If there was a codeword for the F.A.A. I never got the memo, as I was ramped a couple of times, no big deal. Avbug, you've stated your opinion numerous times and made it very clear, I'm just throwing out another perspective.

I instructed there as well and will agree with the above statement. I was ramped a few times with no problems. I sent many students on observed fed rides in those old Travelairs after training the guy to fly it for 2 only days. NO BIG DEAL! If somebody needed more time prior to their checkride, they received it.

At Shebles there are 3 kinds of information (as stated by Fast Eddie)
1. ******************** you need to know
2. ******************** that’s nice to know
3. And, who gives a ********************

There is no BS at Shebles, they like to stick with the first kind of information as stated above. The training methodology there works. Its maneuver after maneuver, scenario after scenario taught in a building block fashion. I will admit is not for everybody, but for the person who has half a brain and is willing to learn fast, it is the best thing out there. I wish I would have trained at Shebles.

 

[Grey Ghost]

I instructed there as well and will agree with the above statement. I was ramped a few times with no problems. I sent many students on observed fed rides in those old Travelairs after training the guy to fly it for 2 only days. NO BIG DEAL! If somebody needed more time prior to their checkride, they received it.

At Shebles there are 3 kinds of information (as stated by Fast Eddie)
1. ******************** you need to know
2. ******************** that’s nice to know
3. And, who gives a ********************

There is no BS at Shebles, they like to stick with the first kind of information as stated above. The training methodology there works. Its maneuver after maneuver, scenario after scenario taught in a building block fashion. I will admit is not for everybody, but for the person who has half a brain and is willing to learn fast, it is the best thing out there. I wish I would have trained at Shebles.

Las Vegas Approach: "Sheble 2, I thought I told you not to come back into the Vegas class Bravo until that transponder was fixed!"

Sheble 2: " Uhhhh, I thought it was fixed, it just came out of maintenance".:smash:

 

[BLing]

Las Vegas Approach: "Sheble 2, I thought I told you not to come back into the Vegas class Bravo until that transponder was fixed!"

Sheble 2: " Uhhhh, I thought it was fixed, it just came out of maintenance".:smash:

Call sign Sheble when with ATC??? News to me unless on with IFP or HND tower!