Ahhh....got you out of "lurk" mode. The Framework agreement also says that it will be, in effect, limited arbitration, only the items that cannot be agreed to, and it will be a 3 person panel. Congratulations, you can read....but what has that got to do with the previous post? (237 DAL aircraft that pre-merger, paid the same or better than NWA 330's, while only 62 aircraft paid that at NWA)---That is significant, don't you think? 237 vs 62! Is there any possible way that you could see that that amazing statistic could be "factored in" to any reckonings about the seniority list? Or, how about this...Should that fact be completely disregarded as irrelevant to premerger positions held/career expectations? Well licorice, that "fact" is not a "fact" at all.....like it or not, your 767's pay LESS THAN NWA 330's. Not the "same"....not "more"....Is there any possible way that you can see that "fantastic statistic" is neither fantastic nor an accurate statistic? I continue to find it amazing that, as confident as you guys are in the outcome of an arbitration, that your side shot down the Feb deal due to arbitration! --This one is easy-- the previous negotiation was non-prejudicial, positions arrived at were nonbinding, and "off the record" thus, DAL started off with a compromise position,(as would be expected- that was the reason for making them nonprejudicial, DAL or NWA would not have to fear that any compromise positions put forward would later be used against them in an arbitration)We'll see - rumor was NWA did not start with a compromiseoffering to arbitrate the SLI was not a compromise?...thus, DAL considered themselves at a disadvantage based on the last table positions.....thus DAL rejected the arbitration offer... Now you guys bitch about the woefully inadequate JPWA when you could have had the Feb deal by agreeing to arbitrate SLI.....exactly what you have areed to now. Well, not exactly the same...(see above) You guys love to say "that was then this is now".....what was it about your arbitration expectations "then" that are so different "now"? (see above)You guys talk now as if its a no-brainer that an arbitrated SLI will put DAL guys hired last month ahead of 747 Captains. ("slight" exaggeration) You know....."it's coming"...."get ready to deal with it" --That is coming from one poster (puff)--not from the DAL pilot group So Puff is an out-in-left-field looney who has an agenda?. ....Gee, if its gonna be that great for you guys you really should have agreed to arbitrate last spring. Oh well, your $ loss...it's still a raise for NWA.