Scab Stories

[Hamburger]

I was jumpseating years ago and the list came out. I chuckled a bit and explained that I wasn't even old enough to have been a scab. Captian replied: "You might not be old enough, but your daddy is." (He's not on the list either)

I'm surprised noone's mentioned good old ***** of Trans States fame. There was a scab that worked doing something down the hall. Every time said scab walked by the always opened classroom door: "That, ladies and gentlemen, is what a SCAB looks like!" Loud enough for the whole floor to hear.

Folks seem to be forgetting what the topic is. We are talking about Scabs, not about ALPA. Love or hate ALPA, Scabbing goes so far beyond this particular union. I believe Jack London put it best.

 

[Guitar rocker]

What's your best "I had to fly with a scab" story? We have a few at my employer. They have a thousand excuses for their actions (none are good).

I'm not a big fan of scabs either.

But somekid, whats your great story you have to add to this lousy thread? You just mention it and then run away without a single story of your own.......do you even have one??? I'll bet someone just told you all about this issue of scabs and you thought that you would sound cool and post this thread. You probably werent even around when any of the crossing of picket lines happened. Probably just a gleam in your dads eye at the time.

 

[bubbers44]

Scabs all made their choices. Don't feel like there is any reason to quit hating them. I can't find any online scab lists anymore. Some attorney probably threatened lawsuits to anyone that identified these scumbags. Sometimes I run into someone that fits the mentality to make that list but can't find one. I think my wife threw away all my old flight bag stuff with the scab list in it. My buddy is still flying so I can get a copy from him. You can still hate them after you retire.

 

[dukeaviator]

They may be employed, but man, how fun would it be to go to work and be known as a worthless sack of trash?

I know several guys who are Eastern scabs - they don't have alot of friends in the "industry." They may be the hometown local hero to people who don't know the difference between a scab and not, but everyone you work with still knows..

I won't ever go out of my way to help a scab..

I think it's funny.. they all have "real" good excuses..

The local eastern scab, "had a family, he was trying to put his kids through private school, had a car payment" yadda yadda yadda..

My dad - had a family, was tryinig to put his kids through private school, etc.. My dad didn't cross the line..

I was a young kid when Eastern happened, but I have learned alot from the people who were involved..

Scabs are worthless....

Both my parents worked for Eastern and when it was time to strike, the whole family, including me and my brother at age 15 and 16, was on the 36th street walking the line. What I've learn from this strike; its always a noble thing to fight for a cause if you have the financial means, but in the end, you must fight for your family's survival. You and everyone one on this board don't know the persons situation that made him/her cross the line, but I can tell you from my own situation, its was better to fight for your family survival rather than being homeless and hungry. In fact, we lost our house! Yes, one of my parents went back to work fighing for our familys survival. In the end, Eastern is only a memory; some good, some bad. The friends we made are still our friends today and completely understand our dilema.

In an economic crisis, one has limited choices. When you have a family to care of, your choice are even more liimited. The next time you come across a person you want to call a scab, ask him was his reasons for crossing the line. Most will probably tell you for the survival of his/her family. BEING HOMELESS AND HUNGRY IS NOT AN EASY LIFE!

 

[Dizel8]

I used to care, but once ALPA let the CAL scabs back in, I really don't anymore.

 

[Swass]

Are you serious? You dorks would put your family on the streets in order not to cross the "line"?

We need a priority check on aisle nine please.....

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Are you serious? You dorks would put your family on the streets in order not to cross the "line"?

We need a priority check on aisle nine please.....

No, we don't put our family on the streets in order to not cross the line. We mix paint at Home Depot. We drive a cab. We flip bugers. We do whatever we have to to feed our family within the confines of the LAW and WITHOUT crossing the line.
Might one suggest not living beyond one's means in the first place. That means not buying a house that one can't make a payment on come first hiccup in the freaked out industry in which we work?

 

[dukeaviator]

No, we don't put our family on the streets in order to not cross the line. We mix paint at Home Depot. We drive a cab. We flip bugers. We do whatever we have to to feed our family within the confines of the LAW and WITHOUT crossing the line.
Might one suggest not living beyond one's means in the first place. That means not buying a house that one can't make a payment on come first hiccup in the freaked out industry in which we work?

You, my friend, must be rich by forcasting the next big disaster or in your words...."hiccup"!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

You, my friend, must be rich by forcasting the next big disaster or in your words...."hiccup"!

I'm no Karnak, but I fully expect fluctuations. Save a few bucks when the times are good, it might keep you from "needing" to stoop to the lowest level when times go sour...they certainly will. Those who plan for storms weather them the best.

 

[dukeaviator]

Save a few bucks when the times are good

Generally every responsible family does this. Famous quote...Expect the worst, but hope for the best! But the one thing you can not expect is how long the worst will last. If you have that much money save for the worst...or your words "hiccup"...why do you need to work???

it might keep you from "needing" to stoop to the lowest level when times go sour

If stooping to the lowest level means keeping a roof over family's head or food in your children mouth and clothes on their back so be it....I think any sensible person with their prioties in place would agree!

...they certainly will. Those who plan for storms weather them the best

you must be retired with all the money you have save for the next big crisis....Have you planned for the economic oil meltdown...thats just over the horizon

 

[Cardinal]

I'm not "rich," so I can't help but spend every cent I earn and it's not possible to prepare for inevitable ups and downs and I'm too lazy and arrogant to work at Home Depot for a while like Hugh suggested so I'll just cross the line (for similar pay and less time at home - wouldn't be a strike if the work rules didn't suck) and screw my brothers and sisters cause it's NOT MY FAULT!:crying:

 

[n5374f]

All Pilots are Scabs

I remember being a copilot on a G4 and was the next to upgrade to Captain and had 500 hours in type. We were short on copilots. United had mass layoffs. A furloughed United Pilot came to the company and interviewed. Told the company that if he was given the Captain Position on the G4 he would pay for his own type rating which he did and I lost my slot at the Captains seat and had to leave the company to get upgraded. The boss told me he saved $25,000 because the United Guy offered to buy his own type and work for $10,000 less then what I was offered. Is it not true that a Scab takes someone's job. By the way this person is back at United as a Captain. I can't wait for United to have a strike so I can be the first one to Scab there. I would love to take his job on the 737. What comes around goes around. Like I said when pilots are hungry they are all scabs

 

[n5374f]

Other types of scabs

How about Chief Pilots at ALPA carriers like Champion that screw their fellow pilots in order to look good to upper management, buts sits in the bar with other pilots telling them how he is one of them and still maintains his active standing with ALPA is that not being a SCAB. You guys talking about SCABS should get over it. When you are confronted with a way to get ahead at someone else's expense you'll scab its a pilots nature.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

If you have that much money save for the worst...or your words "hiccup"...why do you need to work???

There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.

If stooping to the lowest level means keeping a roof over family's head or food in your children mouth and clothes on their back so be it....I think any sensible person with their prioties in place would agree!

Well, I think we can see what cloth the author of this line is cut from. Any person who has scabbing as an acceptable option to their situation, will certainly find a way to justify it in their own eyes and do so. Take it off your plate of options, and any sensible person will find a way to "keep a roof (the one beyond your means?) over your family's head or food in childrens mouth and clothes on their back."

Have you planned for the economic oil meltdown...thats just over the horizon

Yes, as a matter of fact. My plans include losing my job. Is that likely for me? No, but I am prepared for the eventuality. Scabbing certainly isn't part of my plan,though. And you?

Incidently, I don't think oil will be the likely culprit of me finding myself on the street so much as legislation allowing foreign ownership of airlines.

 

[bubbers44]

All scabs have their special case that in their mind justifies their actions. Don't bother to listen to them. It isn't worth wasting your time. It is the same as stealing because you needed the money. Finding another job was a bother.