Rumor SkyWest Inc. receives new jet financing?

[79%N1]

Man, when GL makes an informed post without belittling people and poking them in the eye, it's almost readable!

 

[General Lee]

Man, when GL makes an informed post without belittling people and poking them in the eye, it's almost readable!

That's because I want YOU to be my FO on Fargo layovers someday. Don't worry, 3rd and 5th beers are on me, plus (as I always state) the first 6 chicken wings (medium please, I can't take the super hot sauce).


YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[rtmcfi]

It may have taken 15,000+ tries, but persistence pays off. Good post general.

 

[Freebrd]

I've got a better rumor.

United takes back their scope and delta continues to park the useless 50 seaters thus cutting skywest in half.

Shrinkage is a good thing in the regional world.

yeh useless except when you were at a regional huh SuperPooper? loser

 

[GogglesPisano]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/b...cks-and-higher-fares.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Definitely a paradigm shift here. Management will push for larger RJ's and spin it as "fewer overall." In exchange they'll offer a 25% raise and the 717's. I hope we're not as shortsighted as we've been in the past.

Hard to believe there are guys here wishing for larger aircraft at these regional sweatshops. They've grown complacent with their "weekends off," and shudder at the thought of interviewing, probation and (God forbid) being FO's again (is that an indication of an insecurity with their personal skills or flying skills?)

What they don't realize is how incredibly shortsighted this mindset is -- and how much better life is at mainline.

To each is own.

 

[General Lee]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/b...cks-and-higher-fares.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Definitely a paradigm shift here. Management will push for larger RJ's and spin it as "fewer overall." In exchange they'll offer a 25% raise and the 717's. I hope we're not as shortsighted as we've been in the past.

Hard to believe there are guys here wishing for larger aircraft at these regional sweatshops. They've grown complacent with their "weekends off," and shudder at the thought of interviewing, probation and (God forbid) being FO's again (is that an indication of an insecurity with their personal skills or flying skills?)

What they don't realize is how incredibly shortsighted this mindset is -- and how much better life is at mainline.

To each is own.

I can see them asking for more 76 seaters, not larger planes. There is no way the MEC will allow that to go to a vote. I can see a ratio system where they are allowed an extra 76 seater for every 2 or 3 50 seaters parked. I am not saying I am in favor of that at all, but I bet that will be what they are asking for. I would be more in favor of Delta pilots flying NEW 76 seaters, but I don't know if that is on the table. I have a feeling overall the 50 seaters will dwindle, and some eventually could be replaced with some 70 or 76 seaters, but not at the same numbers. I see Regionals shrinking overall. But, along with that, if mainline gets bigger, then maybe there could be more mainline jobs available, which would be a good thing.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[enuffalready]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/b...cks-and-higher-fares.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Definitely a paradigm shift here. Management will push for larger RJ's and spin it as "fewer overall." In exchange they'll offer a 25% raise and the 717's. I hope we're not as shortsighted as we've been in the past.

Hard to believe there are guys here wishing for larger aircraft at these regional sweatshops. They've grown complacent with their "weekends off," and shudder at the thought of interviewing, probation and (God forbid) being FO's again (is that an indication of an insecurity with their personal skills or flying skills?)

What they don't realize is how incredibly shortsighted this mindset is -- and how much better life is at mainline.

To each is own.

By better I assume you mean my buddy who went to delta in 2000ish and hasn't had more than a random weekend or holiday off in 11years? What an awesome way to spend a decade of your life....

At least he is raking in about 110k for his switch....TIC

What a short sighted boob

 

[General Lee]

By better I assume you mean my buddy who went to delta in 2000ish and hasn't had more than a random weekend or holiday off in 11years? What an awesome way to spend a decade of your life....

At least he is raking in about 110k for his switch....TIC

What a short sighted boob

We just went through one of the largest stagnation decades ever thanks to 9-11, BKs, and the change to age 65 retirement. Now, after profitability, your friend will ascend a heck of a lot faster due to those old geezers finally leaving. You can stay at your regional and watch it slowly shrink due to inevitable parkings of 50 seaters, or move on. Your choice. His switch will be worth it. You may question your own choice eventually too.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[GogglesPisano]

By better I assume you mean my buddy who went to delta in 2000ish and hasn't had more than a random weekend or holiday off in 11years? What an awesome way to spend a decade of your life....

At least he is raking in about 110k for his switch....TIC

What a short sighted boob

That was then, this is now. You'll know who's been shortsighted when you hit your 65th birthday. I hope you'll not be bitter.

 

[pilotyip]

those old geezers finally leaving.Bye Bye---General Lee

and if things work out, you too may be an old geezer some day

 

[enuffalready]

That was then, this is now. You'll know who's been shortsighted when you hit your 65th birthday. I hope you'll not be bitter.

oh, good point. that was then and this is now, so you must mean another friend who went to Delta 2 years ago... 319/320. Lucky guy has a wife/family in ATL. problem is he is at bottom of list in DTW. in the next 3-5 years he MIGHT be able to hold a line on the 88 in ATL... MAYBE... and that line will be weekends and holidays at best... or reserve... in the meantime he is commuting to and fro DTW while his wife/Kids/friends enjoy college football saturday with him not there

He is a good guy with a great family and a good friend.... not knocking him one bit... just saying everything has a price...

 

[GogglesPisano]

oh, good point. that was then and this is now, so you must mean another friend who went to Delta 2 years ago... 319/320. Lucky guy has a wife/family in ATL. problem is he is at bottom of list in DTW. in the next 3-5 years he MIGHT be able to hold a line on the 88 in ATL... MAYBE... and that line will be weekends and holidays at best... or reserve... in the meantime he is commuting to and fro DTW while his wife/Kids/friends enjoy college football saturday with him not there

He is a good guy with a great family and a good friend.... not knocking him one bit... just saying everything has a price...

There are plenty of excuses to stay put. But, seriously, is your career only five-years long?

 

[jynxyjericho]

There are plenty of excuses to stay put. But, seriously, is your career only five-years long?

He's just saying what a lot of us see day to day. A lot of guys bitching about their QOL at Mainline while their peers stayed at a regional and are making +100K with 12% matching (General Six was very worried about that last time so I made sure I pointed out the 401k) with twenty days off.

Moving forward, this day forward that is, there is a potential (no absolute certainty) for everyone to move on to a mainline carrier and have a good QOL and much better pay. I don't think these guys are making excuses, they are describing real world examples that everyone flying has seen if they choose to look. Since QOL becomes very important once the job's shine has wore off, it can be a cautionary tale. Of course you are welcome to slap it down, but I for one know exactly what enuffalready is talking about and it doesn't take a "rocket surgeon" to draw lessons from others life experiences.

 

[enuffalready]

There are plenty of excuses to stay put. But, seriously, is your career only five-years long?

i just gave you example of a former ASA guy that left 2000ish and hasn't had more than a random weekend or holiday off in over a decade. he was hired at 29... that means he has spent his entire 30's as either commuting, reserve or both..... that's a lot of little league games, anniversaries, birthdays, thanksgivings, july 4th BBQ's, new years eve's, etc.... Do you find it that perplexing that there are others out there that don't share your vision of a happy future? Some of you mainline guys seemed appalled that some people have no desire to spend years commuting to work on weekends and holidays, then after years get some seniority and a decent schedule you start all over at the bottom of CPT list.

Nobody else has to live my life. I like my family/house/dog/friends/college football parties/golf on saturday, etc...and have no desire to commute to JFK/DTW for 2-3-5-10 years.

 

[Russ]

In the 10 years it would take to reach parity with regard to pay and schedule if I went to a major, my kids will be out of the house or very close to it for the youngest. It's not about money or the size of the plane. My priorities are elsewhere.