Rivals invade Southwest's Airspace

[Mach 80]

It's awful that SW has to compete with bankruptcy instead of other airlines.

It's hilarious when pilots brag about how well their airline is doing with no mention of how their airline screwed investors and dumped debt through bankruptcy. Who couldn't be succesful with that strategy? Oh, and let's not leave out shredding employee contracts and cutting promised pensions, but oh yes ...please continue to tell how well you are doing and how well managed you are.

 

[Dan Roman]

It's awful that SW has to compete with bankruptcy instead of other airlines.

It's hilarious when pilots brag about how well their airline is doing with no mention of how their airline screwed investors and dumped debt through bankruptcy. Who couldn't be succesful with that strategy? Oh, and let's not leave out shredding employee contracts and cutting promised pensions, but oh yes ...please continue to tell how well you are doing and how well managed you are.

Welcome to America!

 

[slaquer5]

Are you serious??? Are you saying your "warrior spirit" includes trying to undermine other carriers but you hope it doesn't hurt them? That it's OK to try and work towards someone else's failure but that is not what you want?

Dan you are so out of touch with the common person. Do you think it is OK for airlines to charge 1000 dollars for a one way ticket, to a destination that is a forth of the mileage of one of there 200 dollars tickets?.

They charge 1000 dollars because they can, ( no competition )



It is you mother ,grandmother, your sister that they are screwing out of getting to go on vacation or seeing loved ones.

Dan you think that only the rich should be able to fly. Get off your high horse old man.

 

[Dan Roman]

Dan you are so out of touch with the common person. Do you think it is OK for airlines to charge 1000 dollars for a one way ticket, to a destination that is a forth of the mileage of one of there 200 dollars tickets?.

They charge 1000 dollars because they can, ( no competition )



It is you mother ,grandmother, your sister that they are screwing out of getting to go on vacation or seeing loved ones.

Dan you think that only the rich should be able to fly. Get off your high horse old man.

I buy tickets from time to time for my college student daughter to get home or visit relatives. SWA is rarely the cheapest. I did get a SWA ticket for her this weekend to fly from BWI to LAX. I think the prices were competitive, but I knew she would have two bags, paid for the $10 priority check in too!

Funny you should get that impression. My stand is Deregulation has been a good thing. I totally believe that competition has made the surviving airlines much better, it has created 1000's more airline pilot jobs than their would have been and MOST important, millions of people have traveled that would not have had a chance to if not for deregulation.

 

[LearLove]

But Duane Pfennigwerth, an Evercore Partners analyst... He ascribed the Kelly memo to "realistic table-setting in advance of the next round of labor negotiations."

I'm no big fan of "analyst" opinions/advice but I'd agree with this one.

 

[Dan Roman]

but again, I often can get a better deal on Delta than I can on SWA. Now I'm going to go put on my helmet for the incoming as a result of my saying Dereg has created more careers than destroyed!

 

[Dan Roman]

It's funny, but I got labeled a SWA hater awhile ago when I countered some of the SWA "we are the champions of the world and we are going to kick your ass" mentality that was so prevalent on here during the AirTran merger.
Some SWA folks on here were jumping up and down saying they were going to kick Delta's ass and conquer the world. I simply said that SWA doesn't have the cost advantage over the legacies it had and a lot of people prefer the full service airline if the price is competitive.

I also think it's a little unsavory when pilots think they are the competitive advantage. We are not, our element is how well we fly our airplanes. Not how fast we can taxi or how much we can talk stink about other pilots. It's managements job to compete and make sound decisions, it's our job to safely share the airspace together.

 

[curtaindriver]

I think it's comical, and semi ironic that so many DAL guys take shots at SWA guys for being up on the perch............and saying that the "top dog" has to fall. All the while posting articles and reciting "experts" purporting that DAL may soon be on top of that said perch. Be careful what you wish for.................

CD

 

[On Your Six]

Dan you are so out of touch with the common person. Do you think it is OK for airlines to charge 1000 dollars for a one way ticket, to a destination that is a forth of the mileage of one of there 200 dollars tickets?.

They charge 1000 dollars because they can, ( no competition )



It is you mother ,grandmother, your sister that they are screwing out of getting to go on vacation or seeing loved ones.

Dan you think that only the rich should be able to fly. Get off your high horse old man.

Thanks Stalin! I bet a lot of trannies wish you and GK had this benevolent attitude during the SLI process. You sure are nice, to everyone but your new brothers and sisters.

I also just pasted 2 articles and outlined a bit of interesting tidbits that the authors wrote. Just because your airline makes about 1/4 the amount of revenue DL does and 1/6 the amount UAL does now, doesn't mean you need to get too upset. I'm sure GK isn't looking at things like that. And having some debt, not too much, but some is good to keep hostile takeovers away. It needs to be manageable, and DL is doing a great job of reducing it to those levels. Your $19 billion 737 order won't be paid for in cash now, will it? Was the AT purchase in cash? You know it wasn't.


You Corndogs are so defensive and scared. Boo! Look, you just pooped yourself. Now you look like your planes.



Godspeed!


OYSter. (I like that!)

 

[slaquer5]

Thanks Stalin! I bet a lot of trannies wish you and GK had this benevolent attitude during the SLI process. You sure are nice, to everyone but your new brothers and sisters.

I also just pasted 2 articles and outlined a bit of interesting tidbits that the authors wrote. Just because your airline makes about 1/4 the amount of revenue DL does and 1/6 the amount UAL does now, doesn't mean you need to get too upset. I'm sure GK isn't looking at things like that. And having some debt, not too much, but some is good to keep hostile takeovers away. It needs to be manageable, and DL is doing a great job of reducing it to those levels. Your $19 billion 737 order won't be paid for in cash now, will it? Was the AT purchase in cash? You know it wasn't.


You Corndogs are so defensive and scared. Boo! Look, you just pooped yourself. Now you look like your planes.



Godspeed!


OYSter. (I like that!)

You're one crazy chick. I guess it's that time of month.


I am glad DAL and UAL are making money hand over fist. ( not the fist you like).


Now they need to get there pay back to where is was before your management raped you of it.

Take 3 midol and get back to me.

 

[lowlycfi]

On the expense front, Mr. Bastian said Delta's goal in 2012 is to return its unit costs—the cost to fly a seat a mile, excluding fuel—to 2010 levels excluding fuel and other factors. Delta is focusing over the next two years on wringing efficiencies from its maintenance operation, boosting employee productivity and adjusting its fleet by eliminating more 50-seat regional jets, he said.

Here's how Delta really reduces costs....

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=18&item=162

Welcome to Delta's newest RJ hub. Keep polishing that turd.

 

[On Your Six]

I think it's comical, and semi ironic that so many DAL guys take shots at SWA guys for being up on the perch............and saying that the "top dog" has to fall. All the while posting articles and reciting "experts" purporting that DAL may soon be on top of that said perch. Be careful what you wish for.................

CD

You need to refocus on their attitudes, not the DAL guys. I don't know if I've ever seen a cockier bunch, and they only fly 737s around to places like Cleveland and Omaha. They do have high pay, which we all want to stick around, but a lot of us know that can change quickly. Atleast they rule ELP.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[On Your Six]

Here's how Delta really reduces costs....

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=18&item=162

Welcome to Delta's newest RJ hub. Keep polishing that turd.

The majority of slots were RJ or prop slots only. No way to convert them to mainline. You knew that, right? You look dumb, again. They were originally Colgan Saab slots.


Godspeed!


OYSter

 

[waveflyer]

I'm sorry... Say that again?
There are slots that can ONLY be used for "RJ's"?

You're saying that the government tells delta that a particular slot can be used for a E-175, but not for an MD80?

Educate me please, prove that one

 

[redflyer65]

Just add LGA to the list of new "RJ only" bases of CVG and MEM. Like using the ER-175 for shuttle flights.