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OK I'm bored today so I'll post first

been a captain at my former regional on the RJ (200 and 700) for about 8 months, was also an fo in the plane so I Had about 3000 hours in the plane. Flew with a mid-level seniority fo who really thought she was awesome. since she had been there for over a year decided to give her the first leg, on the decent she proceeded to lecture me on how to land the 700 (the kick-out method one main than the other) I said ok whatever that's pretty much how I do it any way. As she talks her way through the landing (like i was a student and she was a CFI) she proceeded to slam it on so hard i thought the mains were gonna come up through the wings. Now I'll be the first to admit i had my share of "firm":D landings in that thing, But just had to laugh as she made such a big deal on how to land the thing.
 
How about the female FO at ASA that showed up for her first "line" flight wearing four stripes.

The captain let her know that it wasn't quite correct, and she said "Oh yeah it is....I have a type rating in the RJ so I get to wear captains stripes".
 
COOPERVANE said:
How about the female FO at ASA that showed up for her first "line" flight wearing four stripes.

The captain let her know that it wasn't quite correct, and she said "Oh yeah it is....I have a type rating in the RJ so I get to wear captains stripes".
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Thats funny right there! Flying with some dillrod Capt who was a wanna be check airman. Final app he say's "center the heading bug. Just hit the center button and it will center it." I said nothing you just can't with these types. But I was thinking "no ********************! in my two years of flying this thing I never knew that! Wow what a genious.
 
How bout a backseat captain? Had a pair of FA's tell the captain and I we didn't need to deice. (immediately after the whore made a PA on a full airplane to the effect of "oooh lookie, it's snowing") Ironically, we hadn't decided yea or nea yet. But after our little uprising we deiced just to make the point.

Mid-bath we get a call "it's hot back here" and let 'em have it. Didn't hear from them for the next three days.
 
If there is a problem with the person in the right seat, the real problem is the person in the left seat.
 
wow that's deep... and also pretty stupid.... i've been in both seats.

i would agree when i'm in a bad or sour mood it definitly sets a bad setting in the flight deck. buttttt

you get these self entitled right seat guys, that think they are maverick.... and they need a little cleaning out . a little colonosocopy
 
Back in my rj days..... We have an alternate on the release and the F/O asks me if I saw the weather. I said yes and that we had an alternate...LEX. He said "yeah but the forecast says +TS for SDF." He told me that I had to call dispatch and if not he would do so for me. I told him "you are in an airline buddy, not in a 172. Here if the weather is bad, we divert."
We hit it off on the wrong start and he thought I was the type that would keep my mouth shut. OH was he in for a surprise! He accused me of being unsafe because I did not keep my hand on the yoke and thrust lever below 10,000ft. This kid, mind you, had been in all of the company's bases exept one of them.
Once I saw a buddy of mine at PIT and he was telling me about this F/O everyone hated to fly with....it was the same kid.
 
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fowingman said:
wow that's deep... and also pretty stupid.... i've been in both seats.

i would agree when i'm in a bad or sour mood it definitly sets a bad setting in the flight deck. buttttt

you get these self entitled right seat guys, that think they are maverick.... and they need a little cleaning out . a little colonosocopy
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If you get the types we all know in the right seat, have at it for the whole trip, some deserve it. However as you said it's the CAs airplane, he/she sets the tone not the FO. Often times it's the CA that messes it up, I mean if you've got to tell your FO to center the heading bug, what's going to happen when you're passed out in the lav, single engine, icing at night with the roof blown off?
 
Couple years ago I was flying with this 40 plus year old "captain" who sat in the FO seat who had more hours than I did. I kept on asking why he didn't upgrade and he would have every excuse in the book, "I like my schedule", "I like my base" "My dog ate my Atp written results" Once I figured it he was too afraid or just unable to upgrade I stopped asking. This guy knew everything about the plane(BE-1900D) not only was he GOD's gift to aviation I think Beechcraft specifically made the 1900D so he could fly it. He had to Monday morning quarterback everything I did. He even had the nerve to tell me, "I think the company should make some first officers Check Airmen" LOL HAHAHAHA I said, you can barely check yourself in the mirror in the morning what makes you qualified to check someone else especially considering the fact that you never sat in the captain's seat. He shut his mouth for the rest of trip. This was a couple years ago and I long left that company and his a$$ is still sitting in the right seat running his mouth with 5000 plus hours without an ATP. Like I always say being an FO is like going to Vegas and playing with fake chips it doesn't matter what you do U CANT LOSE. I am a FO now so if you are a first officer I don't want to hear your sob stories.......its called PAYING YOUR DUES. Kind of like you don't go from doing your SOLO to commerical pilot. There is a certain process remember how school worked. 1st grade.......2nd grade....whats next .....??? U can do it. You get my point. If you are one of those FO's that we are talking about..... here is some advice, instead of asking the FA for some coffee in the morning try a nice warm glass of SHUT the FUcc UP. Trust me we will all be happier and believe it or not including u.
 
fowingman said:
wow that's deep... and also pretty stupid.... i've been in both seats.

i would agree when i'm in a bad or sour mood it definitly sets a bad setting in the flight deck. buttttt

you get these self entitled right seat guys, that think they are maverick.... and they need a little cleaning out . a little colonosocopy
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So you are agreeing with me and calling me stupid. That would mean... No, you couldn't also be stupid. That would be too ironic.

And if the guy in the left seat does not have the command presence to diplomatically readjust the self-entitled right seat guy and, if diplomacy fails, to then effectively readjust the right seat guy then the problem is not in the right seat.
 
Soverytired said:
It's true though. Right seat captains endure because the Left seat captains won't SQUASH THEM LIKE BUGS (when they deserve it).
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I agree to some extent. Call it laziness or apathy, I tend to just let it be for the sake of decorum. I mean I won't tolerate dangerous behaviors or back talk to myself or ATC or other members of the crew but for the most part I let them entertain themselves with their endless drable of consciousness. If you give a jack A$$ a hand grenade eventually he will blow himself the F up.
 
Axel while i see what your saying is a great idea in a vacuum.
I find it just doesn't work at times, being nice to the person, being all to kind to the person, the right seat captain (rsc) rolls right over the whole crew. so where yea doing it the diplomatic way is the first and BEST choice at times that DOESNT work. This wierdo in the right seat wont be paying my car payment if i get canned because he flips a switch that isn't his to flip. its all about accountability. I am all for working together, heck thats why there is two seats up there, but the tie breaker in the end is up to the left seat if it comes to that point.
 
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the large text means nothing, i was noticing on a the reply thread that one can change the font size... dont read into it
 
That is why the second part of the statement about to effectively readjust when diplomatic efforts fail.

If the RSC is running over the entire crew it is because the captain is allowing it. Yes, I acknowledge the existence of the RSC. I also acknowledge the fact that it is the real captain's responsibility to establish and maintain his authority.

Command presence; command authority. I don't like to be a jerk, but I am when I have to be.
 
Axel you might want to consider not writing in code or at least use proper punctuation so we know what you're talking about.
 
Been on both sides of this one. Recently, I have challenged myself to find thing about myself I can improve. Scary.

Pilots' egos are the most fragile. I think 99% of boorish behavior in the cockpit (or out) is caused by insecurity.

I think one of the most important jobs of a Captain is to listen. Not hear --> LISTEN.

Thoughts?

I have pulled some crazy stuff to relieve some tension too. Not be ready for the van in the morning (believe it ... you have to be sure you can still get to the gate for ontime dep.). Somewhat hard landing. You have to pull the relief valve at times or the pressure is unmanageable.
 
Also a captain can go a long way towards preventing the "right seat captain" phenomona by paying attention and ensuring there is a captain in the left seat. If there's a massive leadership vacuum somebody will fill it eventually.

Sitting there in cruise, with a lousy routing in front of us, at our filed FL but well below our optimum, seatbelts and engine anti-ice on in severe clear, glass smooth air, USAToday in the up an locked position. Ya just think to yourself 'Jesus', where do I begin.

Or, I remember the appalled look on this Captains face when he discovered I'd helped myself to the brakes while we were taxiing. He's got this look of shock, why aren't you letting me move? Well get off your cellphone, dooshbag, and I'll explain the hold short clearance we just received and repeated for you but you didn't hear or understand.

Anyway, like I said, a leadership vacuum will be filled, and it might not be elegant.
 
Cardinal said:
Or, I remember the appalled look on this Captains face when he discovered I'd helped myself to the brakes while we were taxiing. He's got this look of shock, why aren't you letting me move? Well get off your cellphone, dooshbag, and I'll explain the hold short clearance we just received and repeated for you but you didn't hear or understand.
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Really? Who is the real dooshbag here? Since you have this fetish with a vacuum I would have said "suck it".
 
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