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Out of curiosity, I am assuming the pilots bid the charter flights based on senority? Are these "lines" desirable and do they go senior, or do most try to avoid them? Discuss!
Young pilot group, no retirement bubble on the horizon. Upgrades will be the result of growth. If you figure the airline has to roughly double in size for a new hire to upgrade then you'd be looking at a 100-plane airline. I don't think you can necessarily bank on Allegiant to keep adding the 10 planes per year that even a 5-year upgrade would require so upgrades for new hires are probably 5+ years out, much longer if growth slows or stops 'cause of the lack of retirements. The 3-year upgrades are probably a thing of the past.
It appears we are not going to be hiring for Sept. Don't know the details of why or how this rumor got started in the first place. Based on previous plans best guess is for the next class to be sometime early in 2011.
However, this being Allegiant, it's subject to change at short notice.
Young pilot group, no retirement bubble on the horizon. Upgrades will be the result of growth. If you figure the airline has to roughly double in size for a new hire to upgrade then you'd be looking at a 100-plane airline. I don't think you can necessarily bank on Allegiant to keep adding the 10 planes per year that even a 5-year upgrade would require so upgrades for new hires are probably 5+ years out, much longer if growth slows or stops 'cause of the lack of retirements. The 3-year upgrades are probably a thing of the past.
Do you think CAs will leave for other airlines if hiring resumes due to retirements? Do most of the CAs seem like career types? Allegiant is a great job right now. but 3 or 5 years from now. Who knows???
Thanks for the info! Been doing a lot of research on allegiant this past year as I have become real interested in getting out of corporate flying... A few more questions...
-do u guys have a pretty senior/junior pilot group? Do you see any significant movement once the age 65 rule catches up with us in the next few years?
-what would you guess upgrade times will look like for anyone getting hired during the next 12-24 months?
Also, I have 1 quick question if anyone working at allegiant could PM me, I would appreciate it! Thanks for the intel!
Well, honestly, the pay rates have caught up to our peers for now, but every single pilot here will still make a lot less than their counterparts at other airlines. But that's mostly because we spend less time on-duty.
Every time you go to work here, it cuts into your 100hrs/month flight time. And since management usually limits you to 94 hours/month, it's almost impossible to make much more than that, except for the 30% overrride over 81 hours.
Other airlines have frequent deadheading which doesn't cut into your maximum flight time, profit sharing, and a higher override. I expect to make about $80k this year flying 1000 hours and I expect my Jet Blue, Southwest, and Air Tran counterparts to make $110K-$160K.
It's still a pretty good job, but if making a lot of money is your top priority, look elsewhere.