Request for the Allegiant guys/gals

[hate2bL8]

I guess u meant paid for 130 hrs

 

[BRA]

Well, honestly, the pay rates have caught up to our peers for now, but every single pilot here will still make a lot less than their counterparts at other airlines. But that's mostly because we spend less time on-duty.

Every time you go to work here, it cuts into your 100hrs/month flight time. And since management usually limits you to 94 hours/month, it's almost impossible to make much more than that, except for the 30% overrride over 81 hours.
Other airlines have frequent deadheading which doesn't cut into your maximum flight time, profit sharing, and a higher override. I expect to make about $80k this year flying 1000 hours and I expect my Jet Blue, Southwest, and Air Tran counterparts to make $110K-$160K.

It's still a pretty good job, but if making a lot of money is your top priority, look elsewhere.

Agreed. For the most part Allegiant does not have the 3-5 day trips that pay a minimum amount per day and what not. I think many that do live in base would rather it be how it is here rather than go to a real airline that has the 3-5 day trips. It just depends on what you are into. Some people really do not want to be home every night.

 

[Fly High]

If I read correctly, the pay is currently on Tier 3 of a 4 Tier System, correct? If the economy ever turns around and starts to boom, how much of a $$ difference would Tier 4 be vs Tier 3? Realistic chance of it hitting Tier 4 or just a carrot to keep you hoping? Thanks Much!

 

[Daytonaflyer]

I guess u meant paid for 130 hrs

Yep, that's why I said a SWA pilot could get paid for 130 hrs. Read it again.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

If I read correctly, the pay is currently on Tier 3 of a 4 Tier System, correct? If the economy ever turns around and starts to boom, how much of a $$ difference would Tier 4 be vs Tier 3? Realistic chance of it hitting Tier 4 or just a carrot to keep you hoping? Thanks Much!

We will most likely go back to band 2 in a few months and once again be substandard. We won't reach band 4 pay any time soon. The 4 band pay system is a horrible idea. Why should we take pay cuts when we're still making higher profits than any other airline in the country???

 

[Fly High]

Ouch!

 

[fly4surf]

Double ouch.

 

[Caveman]

The pay spread on the 4 band system is about $20 @ hour for a CA and $15 @ hour for FOs. IOW, a 5th CA could get as much as $145 @ hour and as little as $125. On band 3 they currently get $138.

 

[crxpilot]

We will most likely go back to band 2 in a few months and once again be substandard. We won't reach band 4 pay any time soon. The 4 band pay system is a horrible idea. Why should we take pay cuts when we're still making higher profits than any other airline in the country???

try not to be such a drama queen. how bout no changes in band pay until May? keeping band 3 is not that hard to do.

 

[Fly High]

In a conversation with an Allegiant Pilot I was told that commuting may be hard since Allegiant likes to make the schedules along the line of: On Sun & Mon, Off Tues & Wed, On Thurs & Fri, Off Sat. Thoughts?

 

[reepicheep]

If you live someplace close like SoCal or PHX, it's doable. The folks who commute in from farther away end up having to spend a day off here and there in base 'cause going home isn't practical.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the way things look the most recent class (April) will probably end up on reserve for a year or more. This could change for future classes if things pick up but right now things are in bit of a lull.

 

[Mr Wu]

In a conversation with an Allegiant Pilot I was told that commuting may be hard since Allegiant likes to make the schedules along the line of: On Sun & Mon, Off Tues & Wed, On Thurs & Fri, Off Sat. Thoughts?

That's pretty much just the west coast bases, although the Oct lines suck in SFB.

 

[Fly High]

That's pretty much just the west coast bases,QUOTE]
So Vegas should be a town that would work for commuting? 3 days off in a block? What are the more junior bases?

 

[Daytonaflyer]

try not to be such a drama queen. how bout no changes in band pay until May? keeping band 3 is not that hard to do.

Dude, we're almost guaranteed band 2 and you're telling me over 15% operating margin is "not hard to do". We only had 16.7% operating margin in the second quarter this year which is 9% lower than second quarter last year and now we're going into the slow winter months. Even some of the AAPAG negotiators are saying we'll be in band 2.

Not to mention the 15 new engines we bought and one of our bases closing down for a month for repairs.

Unless the price of fuel drops big time and we have two great quarters, we're back to substandard. I don't know about you, but I don't like using my salary as leverage to undercut the competition. We already make less in yearly pay than almost all other major airlines.

Basically we agreed to be management's fuel hedge. When the price of fuel goes up, our pay rates will go down and management still makes their money.

 

[Mr Wu]

Hiring again. Calls go out for interviews on 9/16, probably an end of October class. Don't know how many, where, or what equipment. Historically, classes have been 12-16.

 

[plunger]

I got an email asking me to submit a pilot essay. Guessing this is just something they send out to everyone that applies? My times aren't competitive. Anyone else get this email?

 

[Fly High]

Yup, I got that email too. 2 friends of mine that also applied did not get one.

 

[reepicheep]

There was supposed to be a Sept. 30 class which obviously didn't happen. Now it's back on; confirmed by email from Chief Pilot.

 

[reepicheep]

That's pretty much just the west coast bases,QUOTE]
So Vegas should be a town that would work for commuting? 3 days off in a block? What are the more junior bases?

LAS has lots of flights and crash pads are cheap so yes I guess if you have to commute it works ok.

You only get 10 days off per month on reserve so you won't have too many 3-day blocks off. Obviously it's easier once you hold a line. You can trade though to try and make your sched. better.

Junior seems to be LAS and the FL bases. Everywhere else is pretty tough to get into right now although that could change if a couple folks decide to move.

Reserve at Allegiant is ok if you live in domicile, horrible if you don't. It's not like reserve at the majors; it's a totally different kind of operation.

 

[Stearmandriver]

How does BLI look, seniority-wise? Also, I hear something that's probably BS but was wondering if anyone could confirm: I heard upgrades aren't purely seniority-based, but depend to a certain extent on recommendations from captains etc. Any validity?

Thanks guys... living in western WA now and looking to move up near BLI so Allegiant seems fairly attractive right now!