Request for the Allegiant guys/gals

[brokedash]

Please PM me. I have some Q's to ask.

Thx

 

[foodstamps]

Not to hijack but I do have a few general questions if any allegiant pilots are reading this...

-How hard would it be for any eventual new hires to get LAS or Phoenix?
-What has been the general makeup of previous new hire classes?? Is it a good mix of military/135/121 or does one dominate? I ask as a 135 captain with no 121 experience

-How much does a letter of reccomondation count at allegiant? I am very interested in a job with u guys/gals but I dont have any internal recs, I'm curious if I have a shot at getting a phone call (4500tt, 2k turbojet pic)

Thanks!

 

[reepicheep]

Odds are LAS would be no problem, PHX (IWA) is the senior FO base and the wait could be a year or more to get in.

Classes are a mix of all backgrounds - furloughed AWA, Airborne, Midwest. Captains from Mesa, Great Lakes, a corporate pilot or two.

The bad news - right now pretty much the only way to an interview is with an internal rec. And there's so many pilots with internal recs. that even that is no guarantee to an interview.

 

[foodstamps]

Thanks for the info! Been doing a lot of research on allegiant this past year as I have become real interested in getting out of corporate flying... A few more questions...

-do u guys have a pretty senior/junior pilot group? Do you see any significant movement once the age 65 rule catches up with us in the next few years?

-what would you guess upgrade times will look like for anyone getting hired during the next 12-24 months?

Also, I have 1 quick question if anyone working at allegiant could PM me, I would appreciate it! Thanks for the intel!

 

[reepicheep]

Young pilot group, no retirement bubble on the horizon. Upgrades will be the result of growth. If you figure the airline has to roughly double in size for a new hire to upgrade then you'd be looking at a 100-plane airline. I don't think you can necessarily bank on Allegiant to keep adding the 10 planes per year that even a 5-year upgrade would require so upgrades for new hires are probably 5+ years out, much longer if growth slows or stops 'cause of the lack of retirements. The 3-year upgrades are probably a thing of the past.

 

[foodstamps]

Thanks for the info! If anyone can PM me I need 1 quick question answered that I don't think is appropriate to be posted on a public forum, thanks!

 

[Dix-Bag]

I've flown with a couple of FOs who got on in the past 12 months without an internal rec. Leading me to believe it is possible...

 

[Dix-Bag]

I'd also guess that the 6 757s that will be here within the next 24 months will pull some from the MD80 fleet meaning movement of 20-30 in-and-out of the 80s.

 

[foodstamps]

Out of curiosity, I am assuming the pilots bid the charter flights based on senority? Are these "lines" desirable and do they go senior, or do most try to avoid them? Discuss!

 

[Mr Wu]

Out of curiosity, I am assuming the pilots bid the charter flights based on senority? Are these "lines" desirable and do they go senior, or do most try to avoid them? Discuss!

Most charters are for Harrahs and are from one of two bases so you bid that base and all you do are charters. The rest are mixed and are included in the lines. They go senior or junior depending on the charter.

 

[donvag]

Young pilot group, no retirement bubble on the horizon. Upgrades will be the result of growth. If you figure the airline has to roughly double in size for a new hire to upgrade then you'd be looking at a 100-plane airline. I don't think you can necessarily bank on Allegiant to keep adding the 10 planes per year that even a 5-year upgrade would require so upgrades for new hires are probably 5+ years out, much longer if growth slows or stops 'cause of the lack of retirements. The 3-year upgrades are probably a thing of the past.

sound like a New York based airline of a certain colour...

 

[reepicheep]

It appears we are not going to be hiring for Sept. Don't know the details of why or how this rumor got started in the first place. Based on previous plans best guess is for the next class to be sometime early in 2011.

However, this being Allegiant, it's subject to change at short notice.

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

It appears we are not going to be hiring for Sept. Don't know the details of why or how this rumor got started in the first place. Based on previous plans best guess is for the next class to be sometime early in 2011.

However, this being Allegiant, it's subject to change at short notice.

It actually wasn't a rumor. The Sept 30th class was a real possibility but it wasn't finalized. It was simply cancelled. If you aren't about to time out, get ready to fly in December!

 

[john cocktosen]

Young pilot group, no retirement bubble on the horizon. Upgrades will be the result of growth. If you figure the airline has to roughly double in size for a new hire to upgrade then you'd be looking at a 100-plane airline. I don't think you can necessarily bank on Allegiant to keep adding the 10 planes per year that even a 5-year upgrade would require so upgrades for new hires are probably 5+ years out, much longer if growth slows or stops 'cause of the lack of retirements. The 3-year upgrades are probably a thing of the past.

Do you think CAs will leave for other airlines if hiring resumes due to retirements? Do most of the CAs seem like career types? Allegiant is a great job right now. but 3 or 5 years from now. Who knows???

 

[BRA]

Do you think CAs will leave for other airlines if hiring resumes due to retirements? Do most of the CAs seem like career types? Allegiant is a great job right now. but 3 or 5 years from now. Who knows???

I think there are about 30 with American numbers at Allegiant. Almost all of those are coming up on 5 years or more seniority with Allegiant. At this point many live in base and do not commute. I would think that every month that goes by it will be that much harder to warrant leaving. Plus they are almost all in the left seat, and in most cases; off reserve. Every captain is making over 100K per year. The company is profitable every single quarter. I don't see many leaving unless something goes very wrong at Allegiant or management gets nasty.

So many variables to consider when asking your question. Now the 757 has been thrown into the mix which opens up very different types of flying for the company. My guess is the first ones to leave when hiring picks up will be junior first officers still on reserve that commute.