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SizzleChest said:
I saw my buddy's last pay stub from CHQ and they have already cleared $50K for the year, before taxes.... I think our contract is OK...


YOu sir are full of **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**te. You are certainly counting perdiem as well as any Retro they may have gotten. I have read the CHQ contract in detail and unless he is a check airman there is NO way a CHQ pilot has made 50K but mid April.
 
If CHQ was supposed to overcome 9-11 and the Mesa contract to reach Comair+, Then What holds XJT from overcoming Mesa, 9-11, CHQ? If you think its Easy to get comair+ then that great, the ball is in your court.
 
DrinkSweetTea said:
If CHQ was supposed to overcome 9-11 and the Mesa contract to reach Comair+, Then What holds XJT from overcoming Mesa, 9-11, CHQ? If you think its Easy to get comair+ then that great, the ball is in your court.


We are TRYING......but the NMB looks at the pay rates for all 50 seat carriers and comes out with some sort of formula. Now how do you think Mesa and CHQ affected this formula?


BTW.........Ben Franklin......you rock!!!!!!!!
 
MCKpickle...dickle...whatever your name is..... Bonus was a separate thing like retro pay, per diem is after gross since it is nontaxable.... it was $50K without that and being a check airman doesn't make you that much more $ per month..... the hourly override is not very high.
 
I'm gonna have to raise the Bullsh$t flag here because that's nowhere near what my pay reflects so far this year (4th year CHQ captain pay).
 
Re: $50 K CHQ guy

Let's see, assuming this dude has been with CHQ 15+ years he's making $85.62(ouch)/hr, at 100 hrs a month thru April 15 that's $29,967, or $44950.50 if every minute he's worked all year is at the junior man rate (not likely!). Methinks the BS flag is raised!

P.S.- It sure would be nice to be a captain on only 4 year pay!
 
SizzleChest said:
MCKpickle...dickle...whatever your name is..... Bonus was a separate thing like retro pay, per diem is after gross since it is nontaxable.... it was $50K without that and being a check airman doesn't make you that much more $ per month..... the hourly override is not very high.

Whatever dude read above
 
I hope you Coex guys bring it. Cause I'm sick of hearing you geeks sing it.
 
Oh its already being Brought.....jerkoff. See heres the thing. We will be paid higher than CHQ. Heck we've already been offered your crap. But we are not going to settle. We are sick and fed up and would rather be unemployed than take what you have.
 
Like I said, quit singing. Zoid
 
mckpickle said:
Oh its already being Brought.....jerkoff. See heres the thing. We will be paid higher than CHQ. Heck we've already been offered your crap. But we are not going to settle. We are sick and fed up and would rather be unemployed than take what you have.

Great. Good luck. I believe you should get more than we did easily... and I've already explained why. Short recap: 250 planes vs. 80, exclusive jet feed for CO vs. contract carrier for several ailing majors, and NO REPUBLIC. Remember that?

Okay, good. Now here's where I'm calling BS. I seriously doubt you'll get Comair plus a bunch. I'll be surprised if you get what Comair has now, and I'll be shocked if you actually shut the place down for, say, Comair minus 5 percent. And when you say you'd rather be unemployed than work for what we got, why wait? You're working for less than us right now, so if you quit tomorrow you can violate the RLA and be unemployed right now. Then you start applying to Comair, Air Whisky or wherever else. I've already said that I don't think our payrates are good enough, but I fully believe they were the best we could get in our negotiating environment. Besides, guess what? We had the Mesa contract slapped in our faces, and we still bettered their contract by quite a bit, in all areas. So now it's your turn. Take what you don't like (pay) about my contract, and use it to go UP from there. And seriously, good luck. And try to stop with the whining, name-calling and all that. It doesn't make your pilot group look any better, or accomplish anything. (Although I'm probably having better luck teaching my 3 year old that than trying to get it across a message board:D )
 
mckpickle,

its funny how you rail management for throwing mesa in your face, yet you want comair thrown in theirs. bottomline is that you're negotiating your contract not mesa's/comairs/whoever. the payrates will not be written mesa+5%/comair+5%...worry about yourself. mesa pilots know their contract is sh!tty and has to live with it. next time you get pissed off at someone throwing mesa's contract in your face imagine living under it and you'll see how bad it is. our mistake, however, is not your problem.

besides i think a 4yr captain at mesa makes more than a 4yr fo at comair. it seems those with crappy contracts have the growth (and with that better OVERALL salaries in terms of real dollars) rather than the high QOL/rates contracts at comair/air whiskey. that's too bad because those at comair/air whiskey have earned it. but looking at it unemotionally, which a lot of you cannot do, shows that with the growth there is the potential for more money for the pilots.

bottom line: worry about yourself and don't blame your troubles on others.
 
SizzleChest said:
I saw my buddy's last pay stub from CHQ and they have already cleared $50K for the year, before taxes.... I think our contract is OK...

Mind giving us a break down how this magic number was achieved? Make it simple like $$/hour X ??hours.
 

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