Republic (Chautauqua) to fly 170s for Delta

[GFunk20]

Way to tell him, FDJ2.

I seriously doubt CHQ got this deal and other DL RFPs for the sole reason of pilot pay. What about the quality of the product? Compare Comair's performance when they had MCO to Chautauqua's now. Even their own gate agents will admit it down there in FL. Particularly when we fly into FLL.

 

[ThisistheDream]

I think part of the reason DAL is awarding flying to other than ASA/CMR is to balance out the DCI flying as much as a possible. When Comair went on strike, it caught DAL MGT's with their pants down, down so far, that the likes of UAL NWA AA USAIR saw the full moon that night as they watched and learned what not to do with their connection carriers. Which is let one connection carrier get to big as to cuase a real threat. DAL NWA UAL AA USAIR they will do anything to prevent that kind of situation from happening again!!! So what is the best way to prevent that from ever happening again, have many DCI carriers that have different pilot unions, have them overlap city pairs, in addition to different operating costs. Its easier to have control over 5 small airlines when you can just look the other way and grow airline B instead of A than have to actually sit down and deal with 2 large airlines. I think we have just began to see what is really in store for us, unless pilots start standing up and working with eachother than pointing blame at someone else.

 

[movingviolation]

I think we have just began to see what is really in store for us, unless pilots start standing up and working with eachother than pointing blame at someone else.

Yeah, what he said...

 

[asarjfo]

Yeah, what he said...

Let me just say YEA ALPA!!!!

What a great job Worthless has done managing this whole mess.

 

[surplus1]

Does anyone know what the minimums are to apply to Republic? I think it would be so cool to tell everyone I know that I am a Delta Pilot flying the "big" jets. Also, is it true that the pay is actually $20 an hour? Wow, that is a lot of money isn't it? I might even be able to afford an apartment with three other Republic pilots. Anyways, if anyone can tell me how to apply to Republic, I would greatly appreciate it!

Forget it. Looking at your profile I can already tell that you are not only too old to be an FO at CHQ, you're too old to be a captain and you also have too much experience. It's not the minimums you need to worry about it's the maximums. No captains over age 30 and with more than 5000 hours.

That's why they don't mind flying for so little .... everyone has 30 - 35 years to grow whiskers and catch up. It's not that they're undercutting us, it's just that when you're that age you don't think with the head that's on your shoulders. When you're that young, a fancy airplane, cool ride and a hot babe are the priorities. Who cares what they pay you? It's enough for the toys and the crash pad. Sort of like being in a fighter squadron.

 

[ThisistheDream]

Maybe the current 121 airline pilots need to go and do road shows at aviation colleges and FBO's to tell the true tale that awaits those eager airline pilots to be. maybe that will change things!!!!!

 

[ThisistheDream]

Is it possible to fly partime job as a airline pilot. That way you can have the best of both worlds and then the airlines MGT's don't have to pay any benefits for you( very very cost saving). You could fly for ASA and CHQ at the same time but part time at each 40hrs a month at each for 80 hrs a month!!! The best is that when things get bad at one airline and you get furloughed you cant just go full time at the other one and already have seniority started instead of starting all over agian!!!!!!!!!!.. For that matter why not fly for 3 at a time 28 hrs a month at each airline and then that way still have 2 backups???

 

[KingAirKiddo]

I guess Delta has officially said "Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays" to Comair and ASA pilots.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

So if the PID was agreed to, all the list would have been miraculously integrated and all DAL flying would have been miraculously flown by pilots on that list? You don't think for a second that DAL would have had something to say about it do you? LOL

I GUARANTEE the furloughed pilots from YOUR group would have something to say about it.

 

[737 Pylt]

When you're that young, a fancy airplane, cool ride and a hot babe are the priorities. Who cares what they pay you? It's enough for the toys and the crash pad. Sort of like being in a fighter squadron.

And hence the reason there are people out there willing to work for $18/20 an hour!
737

 

[WyoHerkdriver]

Yea, I guess these kids do not care about what the pay is as they are probably living at home with Mom and Dad (or in some lousy crashpad with 10 other starving pilots). However, pay does become an issue for those that want to think about buying a house and starting a family at some point in time. It is only then that reality sets in and they realize $20 an hour is not going to do the trick. I would think that it would be tough to support a family even on Captain pay at Chautaqua. Thanks Chautaqua for making this industry even worse (if that is at all possible).

 

[TWA Dude]

Well, we're in our fourth year of post-9/11 economic reality but lot's of angry people here still don't get it. Blaming RP/CHQ pilots for DAL's corporate decision is illogical. If RP pilots were to suddenly get a super-duper pay-raising contract some other airline might undercut them, and so on. I've seen an awful lot of misplaced anger in the past four years and it saddens me.

 

[low-key]

Misplaced anger yes, people without any clue posting and ranting on here yes.

Most of you who bitch are the same people who hate life, if you dont lke your job quit or do something about it. ranting and raving on this two bit bitch board aint gonna do jack squat. No one really cares about your opinion on here, get over it retards, CHQ or RP or whoever is getting 170's, the pilots didnt make the decision to get them, mgmt did, so bitch at them,,,,,, idiots

 

[DAL737FO]

"I know a the DAL pilots are still bitter about that whole 90 day thing. They seem to think comair pilots are the scum of the earth... The rumor I hear coming out of there is that they are looking to do whatever they can to screw comair over after they got it from them a while back. That's one of the reasons they brought on CHQ to begin with (they basically gave them the MCO base). They can't afford to have ASA do that to them, so I think they are giving everybody a sign. That's just my .02 yen (which is worth a Lot less than 2 cents)."

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How do you figure that the Delta PILOTS had anything to do with CHQ. Boy you were salivating like a dog when you thought those jets were coming to the WO's now they went to someone else and you're pissed at the Delta Pilot group. Grow up! It's funny before our concessionary TA everyone was saying how we were unrealistic and needed to take a pay cut to save the company. Now that we have done just that we are the scum of the earth. Look to management if you want to blame someone.

B-727 Freight Dawg
trying to get back on with SWA (a company that cares about it's employees)

 

[Joe Peeoznotz]

How will this change the contract talks in progress at CAL, NWA, and ALK? I would think the dominos are beginning to fall, and AMR will approach the union about scope expansion.

 

[jetstream]

My thoughts:


1. I've been giving ALPA 2% of my paycheck for 5 years. I'm still waiting to see a return on my investment. Maybe I should just stop and give myself a 2% raise.

2. If there are profit margins in the regional flying why does DL want to give them to an independent company instead of putting them in its own pocket (i.e. wholly owned)?

3. If this keeps up flying will become the domain of young, single guys/gals with no one to support but themselves. Those with families will have to move on to another career in order to maintain a decent standard of living.

4. As the saying goes; a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I don't think we will be able to develop a truly unified front among the different DCI carriers. It's hard to overcome the basic human nature of looking out for number one. Therefore, each one of us should focus on getting the best contract we can, any way we can, and stop bending over for promises of growth.

5. Its possible I might get the flu several times this winter.

 

[Heavy Set]

It's a slap to the face for the ASA and Comair pilots out there. Makes you wonder what will happen with Skywest - the bar will continue to drop.............. And watch out if Mesa gets in the door...

 

[Tex-Ex]

So I'm guessing nobody wants to talk about how Rjet is partially owned by Delta. I think they owned about 15% at the IPO... now it looks like they will own more. Does that mean CHQ is only "stealing" 80-85% from the WO's???

The way I see it:

CRJ 700 is a stretched 50 seater. Canadair should have been a little more creative.

170 is a better platform... preferred by passengers.

Rjet has cash/credit to get new airplanes... DL does not.

therefore, these new aircraft don't go on DL's "credit report." DL can pay CHQ/REpub with the revenue the 170's bring in... there are no upfornt costs.

You don't have to look any further than that.
Tex

 

[Tex-Ex]

also... why isn't anyone ever mad at SkyWest??? is it because they are out West going about their business where nobody bumps into them? They are non-union and fly as Continental Express... but THEY never get called bottom feeders.

Why doesn't anyone fight to get the flying Eagle does as Delta Connection out in Cali? again... they are out West where nobody seems to pay any attention.

Tex

 

[asarjfo]

Misplaced anger yes, people without any clue posting and ranting on here yes.

Most of you who bitch are the same people who hate life, if you dont lke your job quit or do something about it. ranting and raving on this two bit bitch board aint gonna do jack squat. No one really cares about your opinion on here, get over it retards, CHQ or RP or whoever is getting 170's, the pilots didnt make the decision to get them, mgmt did, so bitch at them,,,,,, idiots

But the pilots did make the choice when it came to the last contract.....hence the anger.