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Press ReleaseSource: Delta Air Lines


Delta Reaches Agreement With Republic Airlines for Operation of 16 Embraer 170 Aircraft for Delta Connection
Wednesday December 22, 5:00 pm ET

ATLANTA, Dec. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL - News) has reached agreement with Republic Airlines, a subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings, Inc., for the operation of 16 new 70-passenger Embraer 170 aircraft in the Delta Connection route system. Eight aircraft will be delivered to Republic in 2005, with eight additional aircraft joining the fleet in 2006. The Embraer 170s scheduled for 2005 will replace eight 50-seat ERJ 145 aircraft previously scheduled for delivery to Republic Airways' Chautauqua Airlines subsidiary.

The agreement is subject to execution of the final definitive codeshare agreement with Republic Airlines and will be substantially similar to the existing codeshare agreement with Chautauqua. In connection with the new agreement, Republic Airways Holdings will issue warrants to Delta allowing for the purchase of up to 960,000 of its common shares at an exercise price equal to the closing price of RJET common stock, as reported by NASDAQ, on Dec. 22, 2004. The warrant is subject to a number of conditions including the number of aircraft delivered and the continued performance of Delta over the duration of the service agreement.

"Chautauqua continues to be a reliable and cost-efficient provider of regional jet service to Delta," said Fred Buttrell, president and CEO, Delta Connection, Inc. "We are pleased to replace existing orders for 50-seat aircraft with roomy and customer-friendly Embraer 170s, which better fit our growth plans for 2005 and 2006 and allow us to promptly respond to changing market conditions. The Embraer 170's extended range and enhanced customer amenities will play an important role in fulfilling network requirements not currently met by Delta Connection carriers' existing fleet of regional jet aircraft."

Republic Airlines will acquire the 16 new aircraft directly from Embraer, requiring no capital investment from Delta. Additionally, Delta and Republic Airways Holdings have reached agreement on an amended contract that will reduce Delta's costs associated with existing flying by Chautauqua Airlines. In connection with these reduced costs, Delta and Republic have agreed to a cancellation of 2,025,000 existing warrants, or 45 percent of the warrants previously granted to Delta by RJET.

Delta plans to deploy the new jets in its domestic route system on routes that cannot be served economically with mainline aircraft or on routes currently served by 50-seat jets that require additional capacity.

"We are very pleased we were able to take a proactive stance towards working with Delta in their successful restructuring efforts. In doing so we were able to provide Delta long-term savings in our existing business and also provide a cost-effective solution for new 70-seat Embraer 170 regional jets," said Bryan Bedford, chairman, president and chief executive officer of Republic Airways Holdings. "Our company has an excellent tradition of delivering safe, reliable and cost effective service to our partners - including our proven operation of the Embraer 170. We are excited to add the Embraer 170 to the Delta Connection program."

Embraer 170s in the Delta Connection configuration will feature 70 seats, including a six-seat first-class cabin that offers customers two-and-one seating with 36-inch seat pitch. The coach cabin will include 64 seats in a two-by-two configuration with 32-inch seat pitch. The aircraft's unique cross- section provides superior passenger comfort in the form of a larger cabin with maximized cabin width at shoulder level, a wider aisle, larger seats, higher baggage capacity, improved personal space and increased leg room. The Embraer 170 is powered by twin, under-wing mounted General Electric CF34-8E engines.

Delta Connection carriers include Delta's wholly owned subsidiaries Atlantic Southeast Airlines and Comair, additional regional carriers Chautauqua Airlines and SkyWest Airlines, and codeshare partner American Eagle (in California). Delta Connection carriers operate more than 400 regional jets throughout North America.

Delta Air Lines is proud to celebrate its 75th anniversary in 2004. Delta is the world's second-largest airline in terms of passengers carried and the leading U.S. carrier across the Atlantic, offering daily flights to 487 destinations in 88 countries on Delta, Song, Delta Shuttle, the Delta Connection carriers and its worldwide partners. Delta's marketing alliances allow customers to earn and redeem frequent flier miles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. For more information, please visit delta.com.
 
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Here it comes, duck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Looks like neither Comair nor ASA will be getting bigger aircraft or much growth unless they spin off at some point... That's gotta sting - I'd be pretty pi$$ed - unless I was a Republic/CHQ pilot.

Nice airplane - no comparison with the CRJ-700/900. Sounds like Buttrell understands that and is giving the growth to CHQ/Republic.
 
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They may be... BUT... DAL did just ask for new bids on contract flying and it's a well known fact that they aren't happy with CHQ. They also removed the restriction on MESA working for them
I guess they are furious! So mad they are switching from CHQ to RP!
 
A 2nd year CMR 50 FO makes more than any CHQ 170 FO regardless of longevity. Any 50 seat Capt at CMR makes more than his peer on the 170 at CHQ. I don't care how 'efficient' we at CMR think we are, it's only a matter of time. I don't believe it's possible to compete when we are getting lowballed this much. Good luck ASA. We need you guys to hit a home run or we are all screwed. Nice job CHQ. I used to defend you guys because your 50 seat rates are somewhat in the ballpark and you did get improvement in most of your contract, but this is nuts. $66 @ hour for a 5 year 70 seat Capt?!? YGTBSM! Even Mesa pays more than that.
 
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Coincidence that this happens right around ASA contract negotiations? I think not. Skywest is also in the middle of negotiations and they are talking about Airbuses...

Maybe some Delta furloughees will consider flying right seat on the E170 at Republic/CHQ until they get back on with mainline...
 
On Your Six said:
Nice airplane - no comparison with the CRJ-700/900. Sounds like Buttrell understands that and is giving the growth to CHQ/Republic.
Absolutely. EMB-170 is beautiful. Beats any CRJ. Should be a great addition to the Delta Connection fleet!
 
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79% Well said.......

Although this is only a net increase of 8 airplanes, I hope they feel proud flying their new shiny EMBs while being bottom feeders.
 
Looks like CHQ is the new Golden Child of the DCI network! The writing is indeed on the wall for us at ASA/Comair. I firmly believe that there will be NO further growth at the two DCI wholly owneds! Funny that CHQ was brought in to run routes out of DFW to cover the ASA retirement of the EMB120's. Now, they are perched to take over the system. Whats to stop at 16 new aircraft, why not the rest of the 100 or so new 70's that the DALPA scope allows! For you Delta guys, what would you suggest us WO's do???? Do you condone us lowering our pay to compete with the bottom feeders??? Whats to stop them for going even lower again, thus trumping us? Yea, this is the way of capitalism, but it sucks.....I cant further my career, because someone else is willing to do my job for less! Does this go on in ANY other industry? How can we stop it?

At this point, I wish Delta would sell us off to IPO, Skywest, or CHQ! At least our careers would not be ground to a halt because Delta has fallen in love with CHQ's cheap costs. I bet a newhire today at CHQ will upgrade sooner than anyone at ASA/Comair that has been there 2+ years already.

You naysayers about ASA getting a decent new contract are probably right...
 
Great news for DAL. I can't believe CMR and ASA pilots don't support it. This contract will bring more revenue to the "Big D." This will add job security and long term growth. It will help "feed the hub." These 70 seaters will "pioneer" new markets and then hand it over to CMR. Right?
 
Anyone who is surprised by this decision should go out and get a reality check. Sad but true.
 
Congratulations ALPA on taking jobs away from ALPA carriers and giving them to the Teamsters.

How's about a due's refund?
 
F REPUBLIC







Guppy killing B a s t a r d s. No respect for the industry.

Mesa and Republic are head to head in the race......The race to the bottom that is. Who's gonna win, another poll perhaps?
 
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Congratulations CHQ. I can't say I'm surprised. Will DAL furloughed pilots be given preferential hiring at CHQ as a result of this award?
 
Looks like Indy is gonna eat some 328's now and furloughs and downgrades comming to Skyway.

And the mainline pilots thought 50 seaters were career killers

Jo-fuked-bear
 
Even if Comair/ASA had costs like Chautauqua, I still don't believe they would have a chance at getting these planes. Here's a few reasons:

1) Financing - DL is buried in debt and has crap for credit. DL would have an extremely difficult time financing these planes for ASA/CMR to fly. Therefore, it's no surprise DL wants CHQ to finance the planes.

2) Fleet Commonality - I can't imagine DL wants to have regionals that operate both CRJ700's and EMB170's. The added costs aren't worth it.

Comair and ASA weren't ever in the running for these planes.

The really bad news for DL pilots is that these planes will likely be used to help replace the retiring 732's. DL can't afford to get a new 100 seater for mainline, so they'll get the closest thing possible. Notice how these planes are getting first class too....sounds like mainline replacement to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if this order is increased later this year (probably up to about 40). DL will need something to compete with JBLU's EMB190's and the best weapon they will have are the EMB170's. DL mainline planes are too costly (gas guzzling 732's won't cut it), while the CRJ700 is simply not competitive with the EMB170/190 line (god help me, I sound like lowecur!!!).
 
bvt1151 said:
Congratulations ALPA on taking jobs away from ALPA carriers and giving them to the Teamsters.

How's about a due's refund?
I figured some dipsh!t would find a way to blame ALPA. Amazing how incredibly STUPID some people can be. Look in the mirror next time you need to point your finger and blame someone.:rolleyes:
 
I am really surprised that DALPA let these go to any connection carrier, much less the one with the lowest pay.

It will be interesting to see how they are used. To replace which mainline aircraft?

I'll bet that the furloughed DAL pilots who's recall was bargained away by DALPA (allowing retired pilots to come back and fly, then allowing DAL to slow the recall of furloughed pilots even after you won the grievance) would love to fly them.

How much of a bonus did DAL just pay-out to top management?
 
Wow what a nice Christmas present for you ASA and CMR folks. I am sure that you guys will give those Chittyoawqoiuqwopriuiqp (however it is spelled) 3 year Captains a nice welcome at your ramps in ATL and CVG.

I thought I read the other day that Grinstein had employee moral on the top of his list for the company. Moral must now be at an all time high with this announcment.

Unfortuntaley I think this is going to get ugly. I wouldn't be surprised to see quite a few fist fights between crews at hotels and in the van. That will have to part of the contract, to separate crews.

Bottom Feeders win again.
 
MedFlyer said:
Even if Comair/ASA had costs like Chautauqua, I still don't believe they would have a chance at getting these planes. Here's a few reasons:

1) Financing - DL is buried in debt and has crap for credit. DL would have an extremely difficult time financing these planes for ASA/CMR to fly. Therefore, it's no surprise DL wants CHQ to finance the planes.

2) Fleet Commonality - I can't imagine DL wants to have regionals that operate both CRJ700's and EMB170's. The added costs aren't worth it.

Comair and ASA weren't ever in the running for these planes.

The really bad news for DL pilots is that these planes will likely be used to help replace the retiring 732's. DL can't afford to get a new 100 seater for mainline, so they'll get the closest thing possible. Notice how these planes are getting first class too....sounds like mainline replacement to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if this order is increased later this year (probably up to about 40). DL will need something to compete with JBLU's EMB190's and the best weapon they will have are the EMB170's. DL mainline planes are too costly (gas guzzling 732's won't cut it), while the CRJ700 is simply not competitive with the EMB170/190 line (god help me, I sound like lowecur!!!).
Unfortunately MedFlyer I agree with most of the above except #1 Financing. DAL has never had trouble getting financing for DCI aircraft.
 
I figured some dipsh!t would find a way to blame ALPA. Amazing how incredibly STUPID some people can be. Look in the mirror next time you need to point your finger and blame someoneYea, my bad........I'll do that! Yep, my fault! It was my 19.02/hr first year pay -------or is it my 35.00/hr 3rd year pay that is to blame???? What an absolute freakin' joke that is! Another proponent of all of us working for nothing being the only way to level the playing field!

There is only 1 answer to this, and ALPA should be pushing it......One list (Regionals stapled to the bottom) All flying done by 1 company. If Delta want CHQ, then they would need to buy them.
 
sleepy said:
I am really surprised that DALPA let these go to any connection carrier, much less the one with the lowest pay.
Sleepy, it sux to be so close to BK you have to surrender additional scope just to compete. This new contract of ours, which all too many of you were happy to see, was a real step back for the profession. As for outsourcing to small jet vendors, I guess it was o.k. for you when you were the cheapest game in town and DALPA allowed the outsourcing of RJ50s and RJ70s. It was great and you basked in the growth offered to you because you were all too willing to do it for less then the mainline, but these are different times. You were probably happy to see DAL get additional authority to outsource more and larger aircraft. But now you have to deal with the bitter pill that you are no longer competitive for these growth aircraft up for bid.
 
FDJ2 said:
Sleepy, it sux to be so close to BK you have to surrender additional scope just to compete. This new contract of ours, which all too many of you were happy to see, was a real step back for the profession. As for outsourcing to small jet vendors, I guess it was o.k. for you when you were the cheapest game in town and DALPA allowed the outsourcing of RJ50s and RJ70s. It was great and you basked in the growth offered to you because you were all too willing to do it for less then the mainline, but these are different times. You were probably happy to see DAL get additional authority to outsource more and larger aircraft. But now you have to deal with the bitter pill that you are no longer competitive for these growth aircraft up for bid.
So let me get this straight...You back the growth of non-ALPA carriers at the expense of ALPA carriers because you're trying to prove a point? How childish are you? Comair never flew a jet comparable to a mainline jet. We never underbid you on the very same sized aircraft you flew. Most importantly, we didn't rub it in your face when bad news came your way.

Contrary to popular belief, Comair has the lowest cost structure of all the regionals, yes even lower than CHQ. CHQ won the flying because Delta couldn't take any more debt, and because DALPA allowed it. Its really no consolation that we called you out on that baseless "brand scope," deal you promised would make everything better, because it obviously didn't stop the very thing we wanted it to prevent. Instead you changed the rules to allow it!

So what are a group of pilots to do with a union who has failed to represent their interest?

Now do you see why the RJDC is thriving as much as they are. The more you abuse the Comair pilots, the deeper the RJDC pockets are going to get...and I never supported them!
 
FDJ2 said:
DAL has never had trouble getting financing for DCI aircraft.
That's because the financing has always been done through Bombardier.

Bombardier has known for some time that the plane they were producing was inferior (in terms of pax comfort). In order to keep orders coming and keep carriers from buying Embraer planes, Bombardier has always been willing to help out with financing (particularly for a large client like DL).

Also, keep in mind that most of the RJ's were originally financed when DL was viewed in a better light. Among all the legacy carriers, DL had a strong balance sheet after 9/11. This allowed them to easily obtain financing for the RJ's that were delivered between 02 and 04. But times have changed and DL is viewed in a less positive light. Attractive financing would be much harder to get.
 

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