Regions Air????

[BlackPilot628]

Belchie;

Oh well, they weren't the best airline offer I ever turned down. I'm still waiting for Nashville Air to start up with their A320's.......................
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You do that and fly those A320's for piss-poor rates like Sky Bus is proposing out of CMH.

 

[belchfire]

Belchie;

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As for the original question, what kind of place is it to work..... it is what you make of it. At best, it's a stepping stone, and a wobbly one at that. I seem to remember that you stayed here for longer than you wanted to, but still you stayed. GoJet was hiring, as was Chatauqua, and yet you stayed. There must have been some quality of life, even if it was quick PIC hours. I would tell anyone that was thinking of working here to seriously evaluate what they want out of what is probably their first 121 job, and to remember that there are trade-offs to every airline out there. Seen any happy Delta pilots lately? Actually, I question the sanity of ANYONE looking for a career in 121 aviation lately.... I guess what I am trying to say is, the horse is dead, put the stick down and enjoy whatever/wherever you are now.

Sorry about AirTran...it's a good gig. Maybe not the best, maybe the future of passenger aviation in ATL, but a good gig nevertheless. Their management seems to have a vision for the future and the will to pursue it...you have to respect that!

Yeah, I stayed too long. Cursed by the timing of my upgrade, just barely on second year pay-one of the last that will ever see it-and picky about where I wanted to go. And this is one of the places that I stay in touch with some of my buddies...kind of a group grief counseling session! Hahahahahha!

Go jets? You got to be kidding me! I wanted nothing to do with that mess. HQ has asimilated enough of HK's tactics, I didn't need any prompting to stay away from something he runs. They do however get their raises...

Right at the end I was considering some other regionals though...just being picky. Having been stuck once I didn't want to get stuck again-either with a long training contract or where the CBA is a thing that management views as a thing to bend or break outright.

You're exactly right. I wonder myself what has become of this industry and how far it will go down...or if it will ever come back. You're very correct in pointing out that it is what you make of it...I had some damm fine times and made some lifelong friends there. There are things that management can't take away!

The things they have taken away have not saved them enough money to justify the current situation. In the face of insane turnover they have sought more things to take away-rather than solve the root problems. In fact if you account for everything they have probably cost themselves more.

I think that I explained it earlier but for the sake of clarity I will do so again...

If you are going to go to Regions Air, have an escape plan. You will thank yourself later.

I don't know about that nashville airbus gig...but good luck out there...we all need it. Every one of us!

 

[CopilotDoug]

Sorry about AirTran...it's a good gig. Maybe not the best, maybe the future of passenger aviation in ATL, but a good gig nevertheless. Their management seems to have a vision for the future and the will to pursue it...you have to respect that!

Yeah, I stayed too long. Cursed by the timing of my upgrade, just barely on second year pay-one of the last that will ever see it-and picky about where I wanted to go. And this is one of the places that I stay in touch with some of my buddies...kind of a group grief counseling session! Hahahahahha!

Go jets? You got to be kidding me! I wanted nothing to do with that mess. HQ has asimilated enough of HK's tactics, I didn't need any prompting to stay away from something he runs. They do however get their raises...

Right at the end I was considering some other regionals though...just being picky. Having been stuck once I didn't want to get stuck again-either with a long training contract or where the CBA is a thing that management views as a thing to bend or break outright.

You're exactly right. I wonder myself what has become of this industry and how far it will go down...or if it will ever come back. You're very correct in pointing out that it is what you make of it...I had some damm fine times and made some lifelong friends there. There are things that management can't take away!

The things they have taken away have not saved them enough money to justify the current situation. In the face of insane turnover they have sought more things to take away-rather than solve the root problems. In fact if you account for everything they have probably cost themselves more.

I think that I explained it earlier but for the sake of clarity I will do so again...

If you are going to go to Regions Air, have an escape plan. You will thank yourself later.

I don't know about that nashville airbus gig...but good luck out there...we all need it. Every one of us!

Ehhhh...RegionsAir is what it is and it ain't much.

 

[BrkDkPlt]

How are the SAABS running? or are they?

 

[belchfire]

They're saabs man, "Send Another Aircraft for Baggage" or "Sweeds Ain't Aircraft Builders" or something like that...they're kind of like jetstreams, only faster and not as loud...and they represent the Regions Air philosophy. "Flying Yesteryear's technology and payscales into the next century, because you let us."

 

[Prop2Jet]

You guys hear that Mesa has been awared Quincy, Decauter and Marion Illinois?

 

[ContractFlyer]

If the Saabs are all that great (or not) and Regionsair still has them in the air...why do the flight attendants just walk away? Seems one little cutie just got pissed off at all the problems and told Regions to shove it and never came back. Seems the only ones that really like it there either have a boyfriend in the cockpit or are kissing butt in Smyrna.

 

[belchfire]

You guys hear that Mesa has been awared Quincy, Decauter and Marion Illinois?

Hadn't heard it but it wouldn't surprise me. There was a time that corpex ran a 99% reliability factor (controlable) and there were 1/2 week streches of 100% on time and completions. MAG's Air Midwest couldn't touch corpex in a dream back then. Of course that's when they had airplanes in MQY to rob spare parts off of.

That's been years ago...

 

[CopilotDoug]

You guys hear that Mesa has been awared Quincy, Decauter and Marion Illinois?

Serious? What about Colgan and Midway/O'Hare?

ContractFlyer, come on dude, you've been an FA at other airlines, you know how the game is played!

As for the Saabs? They'd be making more money if we loaned them out as Gate Guards.

 

[ContractFlyer]

Hey Dougie, I am not a DUDE try DUDETTE! Geez I am not male! And I am not Robert!

 

[CopilotDoug]

Dougie, all you gotta do is ask who I am....no problem. I have no secrets...

Care to dodge the question again?

 

[Clark W.]

Hey Dougie, I am not a DUDE try DUDETTE! Geez I am not male! And I am not Robert!

Word on the street is that you are a male FA who dreams of being tied up in Statesville Penn.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Word on the street is that you are a male FA who dreams of being tied up in Statesville Penn.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[belchfire]

Serious? What about Colgan and Midway/O'Hare?

ContractFlyer, come on dude, you've been an FA at other airlines, you know how the game is played!

As for the Saabs? They'd be making more money if we loaned them out as Gate Guards.

Dougcopilot...I saw the origional bids for the operation of the saabs...not sure how it ended up in the crew room but it did. One thing that I do remember is that per flight hour they were figuring about $280.00 or so for crew costs. That is the hotel rooms, all training, per diem, pay, everything.

An example. Since a 737 type costs about 7 grand we'll just call a saab type the same. We'll just say that eveyone got typed to keep it easy. We'll say that the pilots actually fly 700 hours a year instead of the 900 they get paid for. Per hour, per crew member that is TEN DOLLARS PER HOUR FOR FLIGHT TRAINING!!! Okay, the CA's have to go back every six months, but that isn't anywhere near the cost of the initial type. $150 per night per crew for rooms
(yeah, you wish they were getting you a $50 room, don't you?) and say $90/day/crew for perdiem.

So the airplane doesn't fly on payed routes all the time. They should at least 80% of the time. And I'll throw in the FA's too. 120% of $30/hr is $36/hr training cost.

You get my drift...

The only way I could come close to getting their crew costs was to start doubling things. Including running two Ca's on opentime with a base pay of $45/hr...

Those Saabs are flying subsidized routes...and the numbers they used to arrive at the hourly costs were good. They are paying for themselves, don't worry. Actually, based on the compensation you're getting, you are helping to pay for them!

I know the way people work out on the line at regions. If there is a problem it isn't in the field-don't ever let them try to make you think otherwise. If they say that they are loosing money it is only because of the way they are trying to amoritize the startup costs that they couldn't have possibly done much more to botch up themselves and still had the thing get going at all...

 

[CopilotDoug]

Those Saabs are flying subsidized routes...and the numbers they used to arrive at the hourly costs were good. They are paying for themselves, don't worry. Actually, based on the compensation you're getting, you are helping to pay for them!

I hope you're right, Belch. To say these planes are MX hogs would be an understatement of the year. Reliability was improving and then it got cold outside. Management couldn't have possibly baked MX issues like these into the business plan or else they would have run from these planes. The leasing companies that own these airplanes should be paying RegionsAir to put up with this BS. Somethings on the horizon for RegionsAir, though. Let's just hope it's not the end for Regions.