Still not getting it , I see...
niteflyr said:
Talk about twisting. I was merely showing where you were putting down anyone who votes yes, as you have repeatedly. I did NOT say that the pay is ok, so whatever sent you off on that tangent I don't know. I said before, if this TA is an improvement financially and or schedule wise for someone and they vote yes, then that is their perogative. They are not in need of "re-educating" or lacking in anything, they can read and decide for themselves. As for take home recurrents we would not be the first to do this either so I don't see why everyone is so shocked to see it and jump all over the MEC for it.
Let's try this again. You can not prove or say truthfully, that I put others down. It doesn't happen--I don't do that. Saying that I have read/heard fear and selfishness is NOT a put down; it is stating the facts. Those pilots and wives are still on my email list and/or wives board. We have agreed to disagree, respectfully.
I will explain my "tangent": You had quoted me and I was defending my position about standing up for what is right--explaining how I've spoken to some who do not care about those things so glaringly unfair/wrong. Fear=please don't rock the boat, just be happy your husband has a job. Even if a pot scrubber in a VA Hospital makes more than my husband? Garbage collectors, etc? Fear blinds them to seeing an injustice. Selfish=let's just take the money and run! What about those that are seat locked? What about those that want to fight for a job they enjoy doing? What about the work rules YOU vote for and leave others behind to deal with? The "it works for me crowd" don't care to hear "whining" like that. I try to stick to the issues and am constantly slammed for daring to speak up at all.
SU, and other like minded individuals, are not RE educating pilots/wives. We have tried to EDUCATE those that didn't bother to read the TA, and/or take part in a debate of the issues. It is not uncommon to speak to others who know very little about the current situation. I've run into it on the phone, my husband on the road. Other pilots report the same experience in their posts, PMs, and phone calls. StrongUnion is in the process of building a cohesive unit that reflects the concerns of the majority. I, and many others, will be glad when the TA vote proves what most of the pilots want. My fervent wish is to see the pilotforce pull together--regardless of how each voted--and concentrate on the next TA, determined to get a contract that truly will be a win-win situation, which EVERYONE can live with.
Recurrent for free: I have said before that the IDEA has merit; the proposal in the TA does not. To offer a wage that fails to catch the pilot up to inflation on the last contract --hurts families. To turn around and demand free labor at those subpar salaries, is adding "insult to injury". Yes I do know the system is used by other companies and other professionals. I watched my husband do things like that throughout his AF career, but we didn't view his salary as an insult, either. As one of our Gateway pilots and I discussed, we have no problem with them doing it at home--as long as the salary reflects the work.