question for Republic people

[thepotato232]

It's not an "amazing thought" that a company would want to be a 70+ seat operator - notice what's happened to the 50 seaters lately? Our management guys happened to see this coming a couple of days before most of the others did. And why are you telling me that RAH won't buy Compass when I'm the one who said it in the first place? I would love to see these planes at mainline, just like I would love to see mainline pilots take a stand for the first time in decades and quit bending over on their scope clauses! And I do talk to mainline pilots about the new ERJs. Based on the USAir pilots I've seen who almost universally turn up their noses and laugh at their own 190 fleet, my hopes aren't exactly high for the future of scope.

If you couldn't care less about fuel burn and rumors, then why are you on flightinfo posting your opinions on fuel burn in a thread about rumors? And since you've discovered what's "wrongn" with the regionals, how about we talk about the real problem with regional pilots - everyone's too interested in having their say to shut up and listen every once in a while.

 

[thepotato232]

I do have to take exception with a comment Axel made: After witnessing an incident on the ramp during a potable water refill, I can definitively say that the Embraer can pee further than a Canadair. We just have to MEL the sinks afterwards.

 

[meyers9163]

It's not an "amazing thought" that a company would want to be a 70+ seat operator - notice what's happened to the 50 seaters lately? Our management guys happened to see this coming a couple of days before most of the others did. And why are you telling me that RAH won't buy Compass when I'm the one who said it in the first place? I would love to see these planes at mainline, just like I would love to see mainline pilots take a stand for the first time in decades and quit bending over on their scope clauses! And I do talk to mainline pilots about the new ERJs. Based on the USAir pilots I've seen who almost universally turn up their noses and laugh at their own 190 fleet, my hopes aren't exactly high for the future of scope.

If you couldn't care less about fuel burn and rumors, then why are you on flightinfo posting your opinions on fuel burn in a thread about rumors? And since you've discovered what's "wrongn" with the regionals, how about we talk about the real problem with regional pilots - everyone's too interested in having their say to shut up and listen every once in a while.

The amazing part is you have enough time on your hands to go through and read threads and point out grammar errors and spelling MiStakEs! it just amazes me.... I give ya a 5/10 for the needs a life rating. Thus you are only 50% a loser because unlike most your counter parts you appear to know about scope.

Yet you are also the one who I can guarantee would be perfeclty happy flying the E190 if it were to come to your company. Probably the same guy who would say "Oh but our pay scales better then mainline?" Actually you seem to know your ******************** so I'd assume you arent that guy.

Regardless the point is that no one is buying anyone. Like you said Compass wont be purchased neither would PDT/PSA be. Anyways Colgan would have and be a better fit for a PDT. Why the hell would an all jet airline want to bring on Props? Hell ASA is even getting rid of their own ATRs.

Rumors are just flipping funny these days. I think you'd agree with this one as I mentioned already before, give the flipping rumor mills up. Show up do your damn job and go to F*** home. Stop posting these retarded threads in your spare time.

 

[Popeye0537]

Well, not to be picky, but it is $26.35 for a first year f/o at pdt. How much does a first year RAH E170 f/o make per hour? While RAH does pass us on the pay scale at a point, first year pay is very important as we all know. How's your vacation policy?

Ok, to be exact first year FO's on all A/C make 24.50. RAH passes you every year after first year pay....not that it's great, just better. Don't forget the bonus that we get at Xmas time for making BB a rich man.

Our vacation policy, you mean like the buy back RAH offers at 150% if they are short crews? No cancelling of vacations here.




100% cancellation pay if we hit our completion factor for the month. RAH doesn't cancell unless the A/C cannot fly for the most part.

 

[Popeye0537]

Meyers, you sound like that bitter guy who didn't have the mins to apply at RAH and had to take a job somewhere else. Have you ever been a pax on the CRJ 700? It's funny how you call the 170 a piece of crap......

Compass will be bought, it's just a matter of time and the language of the contract that NWA has implemented reguarding the # of A/C on peoperty.

As for reliability of the CRJ vs. the ERJ, we have had nothing but problems with the 24 A/C that we operate for CAL and BB stated in his tour of RAH that customer service from bombiedier was horrible when compared to Embraer.

The mainline pilots sealed their fate a long time ago by selling out scope. We don't get giddey seeing 190 flying through the air, it's just another A/C. If the mainline guys don't want to fly it someone will and that is just a fact. I would rather a unified group of pilots like the ones at RAH fly them then some non-union mormon group who caves at every chance of a new upgrade.

 

[meyers9163]

Meyers, you sound like that bitter guy who didn't have the mins to apply at RAH and had to take a job somewhere else. Have you ever been a pax on the CRJ 700? It's funny how you call the 170 a piece of crap......

Compass will be bought, it's just a matter of time and the language of the contract that NWA has implemented reguarding the # of A/C on peoperty.

As for reliability of the CRJ vs. the ERJ, we have had nothing but problems with the 24 A/C that we operate for CAL and BB stated in his tour of RAH that customer service from bombiedier was horrible when compared to Embraer.

The mainline pilots sealed their fate a long time ago by selling out scope. We don't get giddey seeing 190 flying through the air, it's just another A/C. If the mainline guys don't want to fly it someone will and that is just a fact. I would rather a unified group of pilots like the ones at RAH fly them then some non-union mormon group who caves at every chance of a new upgrade.

You know it all son, you know it all. BB goes to my church just FYI. Live in Indy. Same guy who left Mesaba high and dry. Glad you enjoy being a pawn in the game son I really do. Best of luck to ya! You are not worth my time nor do I care to debate with ignorant people about scope, unions, work rules etc. Funny even at the above post you are fighting with a guy on PDT stuff. When PDT doesnt fly 86 seat jets around, they arent taking mainline routes, they arent undercutting from others. But like you said you seem to know it all! Oh you did not quite say that but implications are everyting. Continue on with your vast knowledge of the 121 system and why your airline is better then the rest. As its really just a ********************ty/pissing contest. All regionals suck!

 

[Popeye0537]

You know it all son, you know it all. BB goes to my church just FYI. Live in Indy. Same guy who left Mesaba high and dry. Glad you enjoy being a pawn in the game son I really do. Best of luck to ya! You are not worth my time nor do I care to debate with ignorant people about scope, unions, work rules etc. Funny even at the above post you are fighting with a guy on PDT stuff. When PDT doesnt fly 86 seat jets around, they arent taking mainline routes, they arent undercutting from others. But like you said you seem to know it all! Oh you did not quite say that but implications are everyting. Continue on with your vast knowledge of the 121 system and why your airline is better then the rest. As its really just a ********************ty/pissing contest. All regionals suck!

Son?.....that sounds comical comming from someone probably 10yrs younger than me who just got his first job.
I'm not fighting anyone on PDT stuff, just providing facts to some ignorant people.


In the above post you were right on 2 statements,

1. I do know everything
2. My airline IS better than yours.

 

[Airline Driver]

Well lets just leave it as the CRJ at PSA are still under factory warrant as are your EMB crap. Thus its only the routine mx. Not that much mx is happening. Heck our oldest Rj is 4 years if that....


Anyways its a dick measuring contest. But as you already mentioned what's wrongn with the regionals is just that of your corp policy. Wanting only 70 plus seat jets while you are still a regional. Amazing thought.... Keep in mind Compass will never be purchased by RAH. If anything coming out of the talks with NWA/Delta have been they'd take the E175s themselves since they own them anyways and fly them. Also talk to any mainline pilot and they will tell ya they'd rather those be back at mainline. Amazing how that happens. Once one educates themselves they can find out the realities of the industry.

I could care less about fuel burn. I could care less about rumors.... All this ******************** is annoying. Show up do your job go home and STFU. Simple as that. Guess what? I'm pretty sure the regionals you see will be around for a while. Including MESA! yes I said it, INCLUDING mesa.

Typical "Rookie" Statement! Remember this, Rumors are rumors and you can only believe what you see. " Or read hear on Flight Info"

Anything and I mean anything can happen in this industry in this day an age! If North West wants to sell Compass to RAH, then they can, End of story" Why It's business. If RAH wants to sell out and sell everything to Emirates then they can, End of story!! Why, it's business!!

it's Managements game, of who at the top gets the most Money in the end!! As soon as you understand that and realize that the second you say that something will never happen when in fact it could. Then your half way from figuring things out.

 

[ifly4u]

Don't forget Meyers hate leads to the dark side.

 

[SVA_402]

Meyers is just terribly jealous he's not flying an Embraer product. It's no big deal, i'd be more than happy to walk your stuff in at RAH when we start hiring again so you can come fly 190s with us!

 

[mu2]

Ok, to be exact first year FO's on all A/C make 24.50. RAH passes you every year after first year pay....not that it's great, just better. Don't forget the bonus that we get at Xmas time for making BB a rich man.

Well you should get paid more than us. Rember you fly a 70+ seat jet and we fly a 37 seat turboprop. But you guys can't see that through your SJS. You prove that by wanting to fly the 190. You are only bringing down the industry with your SJS games. Grow up!

 

[WSurf]

Bins on the 400/700/900 are the same as the 200, can you say plane side check?

Did you not read what I posted. The new CRJ's and Q400's are called the NexGen aircraft. The bins are bigger. Can you say read the post!


http://www.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/index.html

 

[ifly4u]

What size cells are these? Eight by eight?
Ours are nine by nine, no big deal.

 

[meyers9163]

Meyers is just terribly jealous he's not flying an Embraer product. It's no big deal, i'd be more than happy to walk your stuff in at RAH when we start hiring again so you can come fly 190s with us!

Thus the attitude wrong with the industry..... its sad bro!

 

[ifly4u]

Okay listen "bro", I think most of us really don't want to hear some first year FO (who actually differentiates between C-152/C-172 in their profile) preaching to others about how we're ruining the profession. People have been pointing fingers and accusing everyone they don't like of ruining the profession since the Wright Brothers. How much are you getting paid to fly that CRJ around Mr. Upholder of the Profession? The issue is not who flies what the issue is $$$. If we operate 190s for at or near mainline pay rates who are you to say we are bringing down anything? I will fly anything for the right price. Hippocrites like you trying to divide everyone into groups are what got us here in the first place. Saying we aren't good enough for larger equipment is no different than a mainline pilot saying they are too good to sit in an RJ (or a turboprop for that matter). Sure I would love it if all the flying went back to mainline and we all got jobs there and everyone lived happily ever after but I also happen to live in the real world. If/when we get larger airplanes you will gripe about it, and then as soon as your company gets them you'll be all too happy to fly them. I flew with an old ACA guy recently and he was telling me about how when they first got RJ's on the property some of the UAL guys were calling them scabs. It's all relative man. If you really want to better the profession why don't you volunteer for the union (if your company has one) and see if you can make a difference that way instead of whining about rumors that a company you don't even work for might one day get bigger airplanes. Worry about your own house and we'll worry about ours.

 

[Popeye0537]

Did you not read what I posted. The new CRJ's and Q400's are called the NexGen aircraft. The bins are bigger. Can you say read the post!


http://www.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/index.html

You believe everything you read? I guess that what Jerry Atkins was saying about flying the CRJ=success rings true also.

Those bins look the same size as the current 900, "sorry mam/sir that won't fit please leave it planeside and it will be available for pickup upon landing."

 

[BoilerUP]

My RJ that underpays is better than your RJ that underpays...

 

[n757st]

.... All I have to say is its damn funny to hear the reactions by republic guys when you point them out to ATC as a regional jet... its almost like you just told them they had a small penis, they find the need to go out of the way to defend thier "Mainline" jet. As for the 170 vs an rj... who the hell cares. If I had the choice I would probably like an E170, if only for the forward lav and 2 galleys. That said, I get paid more to fly my CRJ then they get to fly thier e170, and that is the biggest determiner for me.

As for the overheards, the 170 is MUCH better when it is NOT FULL, but when it is full it takes just about the same amount of time to get your bags and board as it would to just throw the bags in back, but the convenience factor is still there, so I would say vote goes to the emb. No one can deny it is a more comfortable airplane, but more and more it seems the RP "Mainline" pilots I talk to are just cocky as all can be and need to realize that just because you fly an E170 for regional rates doesn't make you a step above the rest. For the cool RP guys, sorry to write this, you know who you are and I am guessing a lot of you have seen the same things I have.


Oh yeah, MESA SUCKS.

 

[Mike man]

My RJ that underpays is better than your RJ that underpays...

Hands down the most profound and true words ever spoken (typed) on flightinfo.com

G0Jets SUCKS

 

[RobCat]

You guys are pathetic. Your contract is so crap my airline is better than yours, my plane is better, etc etc. Who the puck cares? This is my second airline, yes I did come from Piedmont. Yes they did have a decent contract and there is a whole lot of experience there. I will say that my life has gotten 100X's better since I left. So have many others just ask them. Also remember Piedmont is nothing more than a non-profit airline, guys, wake up and smell the coffee. You fly the same equipment as Commute Air, and Colgan. Im sorry Commute air has the 200's and colgan has the 400. You still have the same wore out 100's 200's and 300's opps no 200s just 1 and 3. Your company has gotten smaller and is not headed in a good direction for the last 10 plus years. Farrow has done nothing but sit on his ass for how many years? Sorry guys. By all means your HQ was a trailer in a hanger in SBY. You are not in the same ball game as RAH, Skywest, Xjet, Wiskey, Eagle, Trans states, or even Mesa so please stop putting yourself there. It doesnt look good. I do think something will happen with you guys but the question is when? As for the other JET RJ carriers right now there are only 2 companies to be at, and your bashing them because they are doing quite well and have a somewhat future compared to yours. Sorry but you pick the wrong airline to get on with. At the Wrong time. Your nice contract gave you nothing but a head ache. Perhaps you should worry about the nice contract at the next level. Great contracts at regionals doesnt work look at the history.