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[realityman]

Thanks for the correction NJABound. But the vast majority of our pilots will remain on the 7/7 schedule.
I did forget that they added years 15 and 16. And I should also add that the 4% bonus after year 16 is not cumulative over the years. And not everyone would be able to be on the 18-day schedule even if they wanted to.

So I stand by my assertion that our payscales are nowhere near what United's best contract was. Not even close.

And don't forget that the average pilot has been here between 6 and 7 years now. What's the base pay for a 7-year captain on the 7/7 schedule. I think my numbers in my previous post were fairly accurate.

 

[AeroDMB]

Do you have the ability to personal drop a 7 day tour at all? Or portions of the tour?

 

[HotelMonkey]

Do you have the ability to personal drop a 7 day tour at all? Or portions of the tour?

Yes and no. We can't just drop portions of our schedules/tours on a regular basis like others can at a 121 carrier. However, we can 'request' blocks of days off at the start or end of our tour (or the entire tour) using PTOs (paid time off). It's sick time that is converted to paid time off. Due to the nature of our mission, it makes it harder for us to just 'drop' trips/days. Hope this helps.

 

[skiandsurf]

Due to the nature of our mission, it makes it harder for us to just 'drop' trips/days. Hope this helps.

And this is about the only bad thing with NJs.....but then again, I will steal a line from someone else, "the perfect schedule, is just a sick call away".

 

[VVJM265]

WHAT!!?!?!?!?!! You actually talked to the passengers??? For 2 hours??? Wern't they upset about the fact that you were not in the cockpit doing your job?!? After all, you're a PILOT aren't you? Customer service is someone else's job. The sooner you figure that one out, the easier your life will become man.


Disclaimer: This entire post was sarcasm. As a matter of fact, I was standing right next to him. God he's good. No Fischmans were harmed in the making of this post. Always cunsult your physician before starting an aspirin regimn

You guys crack me up!

 

[fischman]

All part of the service that I am only too happy to provide.

 

[BeeFCaKe]

You get 2 weeks of vacation the 1st year and 4 after 5, is there an increase to 3 weeks somewhere in there?

Also, are you able to log PIC time under 91k??? (as an FO for the 1st 5 years.)

-CaKe

 

[VVJM265]

Here is the NJA vacation schedule...​

Service Years Completed: Entitled Vacation
One (1) – four (4) years: Two (2) calendar weeks
Five (5) – nine (9) years: Three (3) calendar weeks
Ten (10) years & thereafter: Four (4) calendar weeks​

PIC time is logged with the company iaw Part 1. I guess you could log PIC iaw Part 61.51 (sole manipulator) in your own logbook if you are looking to go somewhere else, but honestly, I think most companies are more concerned with Part 1 PIC time, i.e. who signs for the airplane.

Best of luck,
265

 

[B19 Flyer]

I forgot that the Delta pilots decided to sell the fuel hedges to enusre the top executives would have there pension. (that alone probably put Delta into Ch9) I thank you B19 for reminding me of that decision.

Pull your head out. A union, if run correctly which I believe the 1108 is, can do things management can't do. On the flip side managment can do things a union can't do. It is called give and take and NetJets is working on something that nobody has seen in a long time. Will it work, time will tell.

I just think you need to wait and see the outcome before you pass judgement. Good day B19.

Outside of SWA, Delta had a very successful fuel hedging program that in conjunction with being the least unionized carrier allowed them to stay out of bankruptcy for much longer than any other carrier.

1108 has a long way to go to prove that it's a different animal than any other pilot union. If it looks like a union, walks like a union sounds like a union, it's a union. Historically, unions have only served the pilots and not in the best interest of the carrier.

To think that 1108 is attempting to be the "ALPA" of fractionals isn't good for the industry. When the ecomomy stutters (and it will) all of the fracs will be sucked down with it just like all the 121 carriers were if the ambitions of putting all the eggs into the 1108 basket are successful.