Crzipilot
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Just to set he record straight...Surf or whomever... These are our payrates for the 700 effective 10/06. In addition....by this time next year add 2.00 to each year. By 2009. Add 4.00 to each year. Not the best...but definately higher than mesa. In fact if you care to look. The current book 10/06 is higher then Skywest, Comair, Gojets, TSA, and surprisingly higher than Air Wisconsin's 200 rates. Seeing as how we have a majority of 200's it's skewered that way.
Truth of the matter, basically the payrates are about market rates for the middle of the road bottom feeders. And well look at AWA history. Pretty much bottom pay for their entire life, and done things very much on the cheap. And now you think PSA is going to get industry leading or mainline similar pay rates??? I wish they could or would, Reality....that's a different story.
I hope it gets voted down. I hope it gets voted in....In truthfullness i could give a ******************** less.
what I'm tired of is, the outsiders coming in and spewing their dang all knowing knowledge and holier than thou attitudes, and some of you have listed 1500 or less hours. Give me a frigen break. It's easy to sit on the side line and say how tough you are, and how your'd vote this and tell mgmnt to do that. But untill it's in your plate you'll never know. THAT is what my posts have been about. Support the PSA group. What you have basically done is call them out to be bottom feeders and ho's before anything has been time, and on the other side they have Mgmt whispering of shutdowns, airplanes going away, blah blahblah. If they vote them in, and then you feel like they've done wrong, then fine....you have your time.
Hell hyprocrosy at it's best. A Gulfstream Graduate, who fast tracked to Pinnacle, telling PSA to hold the line, so as to not lower the bar. WTF?????? Didn't you learn the first time???
For the PSA F/O, I'm sorry, F/O pay sucks, sucks sucks. But not just here. Just about anywhere. A few exceptions, but for the most part, those that came before you, screwed you. And complaining about 1yr reserve?? Try 10+ my friend. In much ********************tier conditions than what is here. Here is a cake walk compared to other situations...
For those wallowing about the 900 belongs on ML.. yeah it's true, BUT The mainlines gave 'em up.....and in effect voted my ********************ing job out the window, (going on 5 yrs now) to save their own dang ass. So don't give me the ********************. Unemployed for the majority of those 5 as we watched the majority of you, licking your chops to see those jets come down and give you your growth and upgrades, and did it on the cheap, to get to that Mainline job. Or UPS/FDX/B6/SWA/Airtran...whatever. Problem is now your realizing the drug isn't as effective anymore and there's only so many of those higher spots available. Your looking at making 80's or so, and your life is geared around that, questioning if you can start over at 25/hr 1st yr pay. back to the bottom, paying your dues. This regional gig might not be so bad, but heck we gotta get the pay up now, and QOL issues, etc etc.... Well all of you contractors (exception of PDT) Have sucked off the tit of the ML's and gotten big and fat, whereas these two WO's have withered and struggled to keep their 35 a/c. Compared to how many hundreds at RAH, MAG, etc...
And to top it off, In all of this crap. This is the FIRST time I'll have a chance to vote, or have any say what so ever in any of this crap that has effected the direction of where my career has gone. You can bet your ass I'm not going to let some kid who was prob. in middle school or elementary when I started in this profession with the airlines (not a long time but comparatively it's mid life crisis I guess) talk crap to me, or the others here, regarding this situation we are figuring out.
and if you don't like my spelling, tough ********************.
Ok Rant off.....
Smurf here ya go....
'07-'09 + 4.00 avg.
PSA MESA-900
ca f/o ca f/o
55.95 22.31 59 21
59.68 28.94 61 28
60.98 31.31 63 31
64.67 35.29 65 34
66.60 36.33 67 35
68.58 37.09 69 36
70.17 37.65 70
71.23 72
74.52 75
76.69 77
78.94 79
81.23 82
83.59 84
86.01 87
88.08 89
89.23 91
90.21 93
Truth of the matter, basically the payrates are about market rates for the middle of the road bottom feeders. And well look at AWA history. Pretty much bottom pay for their entire life, and done things very much on the cheap. And now you think PSA is going to get industry leading or mainline similar pay rates??? I wish they could or would, Reality....that's a different story.
I hope it gets voted down. I hope it gets voted in....In truthfullness i could give a ******************** less.
what I'm tired of is, the outsiders coming in and spewing their dang all knowing knowledge and holier than thou attitudes, and some of you have listed 1500 or less hours. Give me a frigen break. It's easy to sit on the side line and say how tough you are, and how your'd vote this and tell mgmnt to do that. But untill it's in your plate you'll never know. THAT is what my posts have been about. Support the PSA group. What you have basically done is call them out to be bottom feeders and ho's before anything has been time, and on the other side they have Mgmt whispering of shutdowns, airplanes going away, blah blahblah. If they vote them in, and then you feel like they've done wrong, then fine....you have your time.
Hell hyprocrosy at it's best. A Gulfstream Graduate, who fast tracked to Pinnacle, telling PSA to hold the line, so as to not lower the bar. WTF?????? Didn't you learn the first time???
For the PSA F/O, I'm sorry, F/O pay sucks, sucks sucks. But not just here. Just about anywhere. A few exceptions, but for the most part, those that came before you, screwed you. And complaining about 1yr reserve?? Try 10+ my friend. In much ********************tier conditions than what is here. Here is a cake walk compared to other situations...
For those wallowing about the 900 belongs on ML.. yeah it's true, BUT The mainlines gave 'em up.....and in effect voted my ********************ing job out the window, (going on 5 yrs now) to save their own dang ass. So don't give me the ********************. Unemployed for the majority of those 5 as we watched the majority of you, licking your chops to see those jets come down and give you your growth and upgrades, and did it on the cheap, to get to that Mainline job. Or UPS/FDX/B6/SWA/Airtran...whatever. Problem is now your realizing the drug isn't as effective anymore and there's only so many of those higher spots available. Your looking at making 80's or so, and your life is geared around that, questioning if you can start over at 25/hr 1st yr pay. back to the bottom, paying your dues. This regional gig might not be so bad, but heck we gotta get the pay up now, and QOL issues, etc etc.... Well all of you contractors (exception of PDT) Have sucked off the tit of the ML's and gotten big and fat, whereas these two WO's have withered and struggled to keep their 35 a/c. Compared to how many hundreds at RAH, MAG, etc...
And to top it off, In all of this crap. This is the FIRST time I'll have a chance to vote, or have any say what so ever in any of this crap that has effected the direction of where my career has gone. You can bet your ass I'm not going to let some kid who was prob. in middle school or elementary when I started in this profession with the airlines (not a long time but comparatively it's mid life crisis I guess) talk crap to me, or the others here, regarding this situation we are figuring out.
and if you don't like my spelling, tough ********************.
Ok Rant off.....
Smurf here ya go....
'07-'09 + 4.00 avg.
PSA MESA-900
ca f/o ca f/o
55.95 22.31 59 21
59.68 28.94 61 28
60.98 31.31 63 31
64.67 35.29 65 34
66.60 36.33 67 35
68.58 37.09 69 36
70.17 37.65 70
71.23 72
74.52 75
76.69 77
78.94 79
81.23 82
83.59 84
86.01 87
88.08 89
89.23 91
90.21 93
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