Your right Clipper, PSA cant stop it, BUT if enough people in various airlines start to say NO then we might get somewhere. We are being ass raped with no lube and the sooner we all figure that out the better. Look at the guys at Mesaba, look at all the legacy carriers who no longer have a pension and have taken paycuts such that hardly make this worthwhile anymore. Its that sort of "I cant make a difference" mentality that is causing all of this. Its always the screw you, I got mine attitude. I'm telling you, if we do this we just add fuel to the fire that will destroy our chances of this turning around to a decent, respectable career.