Proposed List of 100 Netjets Crew Bases

[Bluto]

Netjets reserve schedule is not reserve in the airline sense. Since no netjets pilots have a set flight schedule, airline-style reserves are unnecessary. As I understand it, nobody is on reserve...or everybody is, depending on how you look at it.

 

[brokeflyer]

dude, have you and brokedik read any of the posts from the MEC on IBT message board?

I'm not saying I am for everything, but give it a chance the final language isn't even out yet and from what I can tell you and brokedik are diks.

Calm down sally....I was answering someone elses question. And that Mr.Dick to you.

 

[acaTerry]

I don't trust 'em at all with the "new" reserve. I can see it now...6 on / 3 off / 7 on / 4 off / 5 on / remainder off. I can't give up my H days.

 

[skiandsurf]

But the IBB is a $20K paycut for me... when the Reserve Schedule goes away.

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Please explain.

 

[skiandsurf]

I talked to a very senior NJ pilot that always claims 3 things that make any job good.

1. W2s
2. 401k
3. Time home

(note: crew food is not one of this guys priorities)

1. If the schedule choices give me the opportunity to make more money, then this must be good.

2. If I make more money, then I put more into my 401k.

3. If I can drive 30 minutes to a closer airport, then I get more time home.

These 3 items are met.

Some questions...

1. How will vacation time work? (7days still = 21 days ?).

2. will the company still pay for my parking?

3. when does this go into effect?

 

[imacdog]

Your right....but that's not my problem. The company can open ANY airport at ANY time.....

Im not gonna get f*ucked just cause someone don't like their base.....I had to drive 60 miles to my base before the contract.

You had to drive 60 whole miles?

 

[Dorkjet]

Ibb

I have talked to a few guys, one contract committee, and two stewards. All say the Hard Days are NOT going away. Pay will go UP, they just haven't finished negotiating that area yet. You are NOT going to take a pay cut of ANY sort. HBA's are NOT changing. You like where you are based...good, stay there. You do NOT have to give it up. Have you actually read this thing yet? I don't understand. The H-day section is not in the proposal as such in language, but it will be there in the end I am told. They are just opening up the options. Also you will know what days you will have off by the 15th of the month prior after you bid your preferential days off. No real change there, just 15 and 18 day and the option of the company to keep you out for one set of 8 days on the 18, and then give you mandatory min of 5 days off after that one set of 8 IF they needed to use you for 8 days. 7&7 is NOT changing. If you look at it, it's actually a pretty good deal on the "face" of it. That doesn't mean much until the end product is presented though. For everyone who says "I'm not taking a pay cut"...well, if you read it, you AREN'T. For those saying "i'm not going to give up my HBA"...well, if you read it, you AREN'T! It actually gives HBA people a little more flexibility. I'm more curious about the PTO bank system. The method of time accrual (sp?) and how much you earn each month haven't been decided yet. I have also had the above listed people ask me back in May and June if I would vote for expanded "domiciles". I asked what the chances are of getting HBA for everyone before the next contract, and everyone said "None, you will not get that no matter what". So, for me, as a junior guy, the 100 domiciles are a he!! of a lot better than being stuck with the 5 the we are forced into now. Please read the proposal before you comment on it. I know things were bad here before. I haven't been drinking any "Kool-Aid". All one can do is actually read it, I mean READ it and not scan it, get all the info you can, and then make an EDUCATED decision. So far I'm not seeing much of that. Don't bother flaming if you haven't actually read the d@mn thing. Just remember, I HAVEN'T decided yet either. It "looks" good right now, and that means a heck of a lot of nothing. We'll just have to see what comes of it and make an educated decision then.

 

[brokeflyer]

Thats what I said from the start....problem is that soon as something in writing comes out all the dinosaurs of senior guys freak ut thinking its the end of the world.

 

[gunfyter]

How is it a paycut? 18 day rsv will pay more then the current rsv now. If your going to talk sh!t at least get it correct. Your taking a pay cut IF YOU bid the 7&7.

Reserve schedule goes away.

You do not have to BID 7/7. It is the default schedule. So if you don't bid the 18 or 15 day schedule ... you get stuck on 7/7 and take a paycut (Unless 7/7 pay is increased to match current Reserve)


Here is the solution:

If the new schedules are so great...

Just leave the current Reserve as an Option. Nobody will bid it since the new scheds are so much better. I have not talked to a Reservist who likes what we see in these new schedules.

I don't see anything to like about what has been released.

 

[bluepost]

I'm on reserve and I like the new options...especially the 15 day. I hate 7 day tours, the 15 day will get at least an ext day pay for it plus an overall raise...that could be close to 15k a year compared to the 19k a yr I get extra on the reserve now. Now if I ext one day a month with the new open time ext day system I'm looking at 25k a yr for 16 days a month and I control the extra day and max 5 day tours (or 6 day if I extend).

I am averaging 15 days a month on the reserve now, and I betting you won't work 15 days every month on the new reserve according to BO.

So again tell me...why should we pass on this option and wait 2-3 more years with no pay raise? 6k more a yr means I cap out my 401k and Social Security earlier in the yr...possibly by mid august. That is 500 a month...a pretty nice car. Again why would I pass up a free car for 2-3 years for working the same or less?