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Let Rich tell me that. He is not hiding from anything or anyone. I would be shocked if he told me to remove it.IF he does....I will. And I will apologize. If you think it is not appropriate then I apologize to you. However, your request is denied, just like all your drop trips. (I'm trying to be funny, not a smarta**)
Respectfully submitted with a geniune smile. Please don't hate me.
 
Wha??

Do you guys really have 30+% failure rates on fed rides? Wow you have some mean feds. I have never even heard of anyone failing a fed ride.
 
scabseeker said:
Do you guys really have 30+% failure rates on fed rides? Wow you have some mean feds. I have never even heard of anyone failing a fed ride.
It's not the real feds failing our guys, it's the company check-airmen for the most part. It's sad when you take a sigh of relief when you find out that the FAA is doing your fed ride instead of a company check-airman, but that's the reality at PCL.
 
Yeah it really sucks here. Only one month on reserve and a line with 98 hours the second (DTW). I would much rather go somewhere else with old equipment, no growth, and sit on reserve for years...
 
Conspiracy runs deep in the minds of the paranoid.

Utterly pathetic thread if you ask me.
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
Yeah it really sucks here. Only one month on reserve and a line with 98 hours the second (DTW). I would much rather go somewhere else with old equipment, no growth, and sit on reserve for years...
You've been here two months.. let's talk again in 6 months.. Let's talk if no more jet's arrive.. Timing is everything at 9E, talk to FO's who rode the couch for 14-16 months... Be happy you are where you are, but you are still on the bottom. Do 4 CHS in a row and then we will see how happy you are...

Don't expect line values to stay up much longer, traditionally they drop come Oct to Feb... Guarantee on a first year FO salary is tough.. (been there and done that).

PCL_128 said:
It's not the real feds failing our guys, it's the company check-airmen for the most part. It's sad when you take a sigh of relief when you find out that the FAA is doing your fed ride instead of a company check-airman, but that's the reality at PCL.
Yea.. I think we had maybe 2 get failed by the Fed's.. the other 2 dozen or so were did not have the pleasure of a fed in the seat..
 
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Yea.. I think we had maybe 2 get failed by the Fed's.. the other 2 dozen or so were by done by a combination of 2 of OUR check-airman. You know it sucks when the same guys you work with screw you over for another year in the right seat.


Screw you over??? Competent pilots don't fail line checks. If you can't even fly one leg without stepping on your d*ck you don't deserve to be in the left seat.
 
DoinTime said:
Screw you over??? Competent pilots don't fail line checks. If you can't even fly one leg without stepping on your d*ck you don't deserve to be in the left seat.


Yea that sums it all up......for you anyway.
 
PCL, thanks for your concern, I appreciate it, but Seminole is evidently someone who knows me at least passingly well 'cause I've posted my full name, address, and phone number on this forum before calling someone out on a bunch of b.s. and won't ever hide behind anonymity. Like my Grandmother used to say, "If it's not something you would say to someone's face, it's not worth saying behind their back".

DoinTime, you're more naiive than I thought if you truly believe that this MEC wouldn't go to GREAT LENGTHS to keep me out. I know that the election was being discussed in June prior to the bid packets coming out, and I have the dates and times I spoke to ALPA who had already outlined the timeline for the vote. They very easily could have had the nominations and votes in July, had plenty of time to bid for that day off, but chose not to. They waited an extra month and told people that I wouldn't be elligible, LONG BEFORE they even announced the date of the meeting.

It was that information that got back to me which prompted me to call ALPA, find out about the council bypass, and request it... I wouldn't have had time to do the research and file the paperwork if I hadn't heard about their plan BEFORE they announced the meeting date.

Suuurrrre it's all coincidence. Didn't think you drank the kool-aid, company or MEC.
 
Rich...I wasn't referring to your specific situation but rather many of the other various conspiracy theories that have been floated in this thread. I have no idea if there was a conspiracy to keep you out of elected office but you have to admit you made it easy for certain factions of the MEC to lock you out if that was truly their intention.

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. This is only a temporary position. Use the next 4-5 months to campaign and gather support for the permanent position. If you convince the majority of the voting membership in DTW that you are the best person for the job you will win. Democracy is great isn't it.
 
DoinTime said:
Screw you over??? Competent pilots don't fail line checks. If you can't even fly one leg without stepping on your d*ck you don't deserve to be in the left seat.
Glad to know that you're perfect and have never made a mistake flying the line. I wish we could all be as perfect as you. All hail Dointime! We can only aspire to be half as good a pilot as he. (copious amounts of sarcasm)

The problem is the way these certain check-airmen are performing their duties during fed rides. This is supposed to be a simple observation ride with maybe an occasional question about why you made a certain decision. These check-airmen are berating pilots the entire flight. They never let up with the outlandish questions, and when the pilot is distracted by it and misses a radio call, they jump down his throat. There is no reason for such an adversarial relationship. The feds doing these rides have done their job the way it was intended: they observe and make sure you don't do anything illegal or unsafe. The company check-airmen need to lose the attitude.
 
Yes, I did make it easy... That's one of the few down-sides to sport bidding I guess, but who knew Dave would have been leaving mid-term? And you're absolutely right, it's only a 5-month term, but it's the willfulness with which it seems to have been done that makes me so irritated.

Maybe it IS all a big coincidence, but I don't believe in simultaneous multiple coincidences; one or two maybe but not the four or five that had to come together to keep me inelligible. We'll see how February pans out...
 
DoinTime said:
but rather many of the other various conspiracy theories that have been floated in this thread.
I don't know if I would call it "conspiracy theories".. If the company or other party wants to make life difficult on a pilot it does happen and has happened. This is not anything new to this industry or to any ONE airline.

There is still (alive and well) various "cliques" in our pilot group and our company that ensure certain ways prevail.

Conspiracy? I don't think so.. but you better be on the "good" side.. or you better be well prepared.
 
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PCL_128 said:
The problem is the way these certain check-airmen are performing their duties during fed rides. This is supposed to be a simple observation ride with maybe an occasional question about why you made a certain decision. These check-airmen are berating pilots the entire flight. They never let up with the outlandish questions, and when the pilot is distracted by it and misses a radio call, they jump down his throat. There is no reason for such an adversarial relationship. The feds doing these rides have done their job the way it was intended: they observe and make sure you don't do anything illegal or unsafe. The company check-airmen need to lose the attitude.


As captain of the ship you need to mitigate distractions in the cockpit. If you were so distracted that you became unable to perform your duties in the you need to do something about it. During my fed ride in the CRJ I had to tell both the Fed and the check airman in my right seat to STFU as their relentless bantor was creating a distration to my duties. Its unfortunate for some that our examiners force us to be better pilots.
 
DoinTime said:
As captain of the ship you need to mitigate distractions in the cockpit. If you were so distracted that you became unable to perform your duties in the you need to do something about it. During my fed ride in the CRJ I had to tell both the Fed and the check airman in my right seat to STFU as their relentless bantor was creating a distration to my duties. Its unfortunate for some that our examiners force us to be better pilots.

Sorry man, but you are a truth stretcher......see how easy it is to call someone else's story BS..You sound pretty foolish with that story.

How bout this one.....well on my fed ride in the CRJ the check airmen in my right seat told both the FED and I to STFU as our relentless bantor was creating a distraction from his nap time. So there.
 

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