Pilots leaving Avantair for Twin Otter 135 Job

[fivefootnuthin]

if ya ask me .....3.5 hrs in the seat is 3.5 hrs in the seat. its butt numbing whether your goin 380kts or 160 hahaha

 

[mainiac]

Yep, but ask Cherry bomb how the "London-butt" feels in that big shiny new ride of his!

BTW, Cherry, how come we kept hearing you on freq from Cabo to TX all the way? Shouldn't you have outrun us a little?

 

[Capt. JD]

Capt. JD
Don't you know that 205's are so 80's technology? When are you going to step up to the shaped skiis like the big dogs on the US Ski team are using. I know what you mean about going fast in the FL's, much rather be pounding around in something like umm,,, a 310R

Corp Weenie Flunkie, Shaped Skiis are for people that need help making big S turns, it interferes with my skiing style. That right, real flying!

 

[Capt. JD]

LOL!:smash:

It was not that fun, Brian...

 

[lowspeed]

so the us ski team needs help makeing big s-turns?????

 

[wt219200]

Wow, talk about a performance difference. Going from the fastest turboprop to the slow Twotter must be a let down.

Is life so bad at Avantair that flying a Twotter would be so appealing? I wonder what their beef was with Avantair to do that?

Based on this comment I doubt you've flown an Otter. Since when is speed the sole basis of performance. Besides speed I would guess an Otter outperforms a Piaggio in every other aspect.

 

[hangarrat]

Based on this comment I doubt you've flown an Otter. Since when is speed the sole basis of performance. Besides speed I would guess an Otter outperforms a Piaggio in every other aspect.

The twotter most definatley can outperform a piaggio in a greater amount of cabin noise, the discomfort of flight, a lack of automation and the amount of fuel burned.

 

[wt219200]

Maybe a little bit overboard with saying every other aspect of performance because that clearly is not the case but they're also two different airplanes designed for two different things. I have never heard of anyone being let down by the performance of the Otter besides the cruising speed of course.

 

[avbug]

I would guess an Otter outperforms a Piaggio in every other aspect.

You would guess wrong, then.

Other than a shorter takeoff and landing and more seats...how does the otter outperform the piaggio?

The piaggio flies faster, higher, is more fuel efficient, climbs more quickly, is an all weather airplane with good ice protection, is far quieter, certainly more comfortable, with superior avionics and nav capabilities and IFR performance, has a better single engine performance and higher single engine ceiling, among other things. But you say the otter out performs the piaggio in every other respect than speed, then?

 

[hangarrat]

But you say the otter out performs the piaggio in every other respect than speed, then?

Like a bus, it can carry more passengers. The result, increased odds of cleaning up a mess from the airsick pax due to the low altitude bumpy slow ride.

But really, it isn’t a fair comparison, more like comparing today’s Ferrari Enzo to a world war "deuce and a half" personnel carrier. :laugh:

 

[Flywithmike]

Like a bus, it can carry more passengers. The result, increased odds of cleaning up a mess from the airsick pax due to the low altitude bumpy slow ride.

But really, it isn’t a fair comparison, more like comparing today’s Ferrari Enzo to a world war "deuce and a half" personnel carrier. :laugh:

I've flown both, and hangarrat pretty much summed it up.

 

[wt219200]

You would guess wrong, then.

Other than a shorter takeoff and landing and more seats...how does the otter outperform the piaggio?

The piaggio flies faster, higher, is more fuel efficient, climbs more quickly, is an all weather airplane with good ice protection, is far quieter, certainly more comfortable, with superior avionics and nav capabilities and IFR performance, has a better single engine performance and higher single engine ceiling, among other things. But you say the otter out performs the piaggio in every other respect than speed, then?

Avbug did you bother to read my second post before typing all of this. My point was that I dont think anyone would be disappointed after flying the Otter thats all.

 

[glasspilot]

I flew the Otter once and was VERY disappointed. I'll never do that again!













<-----Notice the "aircraft flown"

 

[avbug]

My point was that I dont think anyone would be disappointed after flying the Otter thats all.

I was so thrilled that every time we took off, I jumped out. Yipee. Whoop-te-do.

Avbug did you bother to read my second post before typing all of this.

No, I was so underwhelmed by your first effort that I'd already heard enough stupidity for one day.

 

[johnsonrod]

If QOL wasn't the biggest issue for someone (i.e., home every night) I can't imagine someone would be happy transitioning from a P180 (especially the Avanti II) into a Twotter. It's like going from 60 MPH to 5 MPH and from the 21st Century to the Stone Age...

I guess if QOL was their primary interest, they got what they wanted. At least they will have good memories while chuggin' along between Vegas and the Canyon...

 

[avbug]

There seems to be some assumption that going fast is preferable to going slow. Why would you assume that the best memories would be from the faster airplane?

The best flying I've ever done, and by far the most enjoyable, has all been low and slow.

Who says that moving to an otter is a demotion?

 

[flyzimex]

Now, if I tell you that I go home with roughly $15k net after five weeks of work, would you still beat down on a Twotter job?

 

[Meat n the Seat]

Well Flyzimex...Where do you work??????

 

[On Your Six]

Now, if I tell you that I go home with roughly $15k net after five weeks of work, would you still beat down on a Twotter job?

I guess running drugs up from Mexico in a Twotter can be profitable...

 

[flyzimex]

Well Flyzimex...Where do you work??????

Subtract FLY and do a search on the rest of my screenname. Just make sure you got a JAR license if you want to work there. Swiss company contracted flying for oil companies in Africa.

In fact, our guys flying PC-6 Porter make the same kind of money .

FZ