Pilots leaving Avantair for Twin Otter 135 Job

[fckncrzy]

Has anyone else heard a rumor about pilots leaving Avantair to go fly in the Grand Canyon? What is the deal with Avantair?

 

[glasspilot]

Yeah, turns out we live in the USA and people can go work where they like.

You're referring to 2 pilots who left at the same time to go to the same place. Not exactly an exodus is it?

 

[On Your Six]

Wow, talk about a performance difference. Going from the fastest turboprop to the slow Twotter must be a let down.

Is life so bad at Avantair that flying a Twotter would be so appealing? I wonder what their beef was with Avantair to do that?

 

[mainiac]

Just to try and head off all the flame..
Married couple, job is 'home every night', and they used to work there.

 

[flyipilot]

Who wouldn't want to live in the excitement of Vegas! Maybe start up a second more lucrative gambling career.

 

[SharkBait]

Wow, talk about a performance difference. Going from the fastest turboprop to the slow Twotter must be a let down.

Is life so bad at Avantair that flying a Twotter would be so appealing? I wonder what their beef was with Avantair to do that?

Rule #1: There are more important things in life than how shiny or big your airplane is.

Rule #2: Until you understand rule #1, you will never learn the joy of being content.

 

[flyzimex]

To each its own..

Rule #1: There are more important things in life than how shiny or big your airplane is.

Rule #2: Until you understand rule #1, you will never learn the joy of being content.

As a Twotter captain flying overseas making more money and having more time off than most pilots probably ever will, I can only agree..

However, as some of you might know, I am still trying to make the opposite step to what this couple did and get into a frac operator. All my time off and a good pay check comes with a price, which is being away for five weeks at a time..

We all have different opinions of what is the best job depending on personal preferences.

FZ

 

[On Your Six]

Rule #1: There are more important things in life than how shiny or big your airplane is.

Rule #2: Until you understand rule #1, you will never learn the joy of being content.

Gee, thanks Dad. I am glad you speak in generalizations for everyone. I wanted to understand their motivations - hence the original question.

 

[corpflunkie]

The couple in question already live in Vegas and used to work for the company they went back to. For some people, being on the road for 7 days gets really old. They probably just wanted to be home together every night.

 

[On Your Six]

The couple in question already live in Vegas and used to work for the company they went back to. For some people, being on the road for 7 days gets really old. They probably just wanted to be home together every night.

Makes sense. Thanks for the non-philosophical answer.

 

[glasspilot]

.......nevermind. Had a real witty response here that's better left out.

 

[FlyWithSean]

It was three Avantair pilots that left for the lowly twotter.

 

[Famous Dave]

Actually, there were 4 pilots that left Avantair for the mighty Otter. The first guy left over 6 months ago.

 

[414Flyer]

Rule #1: There are more important things in life than how shiny or big your airplane is.

Rule #2: Until you understand rule #1, you will never learn the joy of being content.

:beer:

Exactly. Most any civilian plane loses the excitement after a while, and it becomes just like any other And for some of us, flying is not our life or identity, its just something we do, so that we can have a life when not flying.

I would have no problem flying a C-172 for a job, if it paid well, was in a nice place so that I had a good quality of life.

 

[brewerdog]

gotta chime in on this one,
some of the best flights I have ever had were in the Twotter flying over the canyon, getting paid for it was just icing on the cake

 

[FlyWithSean]

:beer:

I would have no problem flying a C-172 for a job, if it paid well, was in a nice place so that I had a good quality of life.

Hmmm maybe now you are starting to find the reason someone would leave Avantair.

 

[avbug]

Hmmm maybe now you are starting to find the reason someone would leave Avantair.

There are plenty of god reasons to leave Avantair...


Just not enough time in a day to list them all.

 

[Irish Pilot]

I know a few of the people in this situation, and for each it was a great improvement in quality of life with little or no financial change.

 

[Flybet3]

There are plenty of god reasons to leave Avantair...


Just not enough time in a day to list them all.

Hey he's back!

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

There are plenty of god reasons to leave Avantair...


Just not enough time in a day to list them all.

Exactly. I wouldn't want to work at Avantair either, considering the first hand facts that many have relayed from being over there.

There is nothing "lowly" about flying a Twin Otter, or any other smaller/slower/prop/non-SJS aircraft. An ILS is an ILS, is an ILS....Get over yourselves.

As one old, crusty NWA Capatin once told me:

"The glory days are not here pushing buttons in this big jet. The REAL flying I did was back in the day, flying Cargo in my Twin Otter. That's what made me a pilot."

Some of us have 30+ years to sit in the heavies and push buttons, use the autopilot. Why not have some fun hand-flying the steam gauges for a while?

I only wish more of us could have the experience of something like that.

-FW

 

[flyzimex]

Why not have some fun hand-flying the steam gauges for a while?

I only wish more of us could have the experience of something like that.

-FW

Hey FW, why don't you come over here to the Saharas and fly my Twotter so I can fly your shiny jet .

As far as the handling of an airplane that NWA cap is right, one do learn have to handfly well and take the plane into some short and tricky runways. That's a skill I hope I can have use of once I one day get into a bizjet.

FZ

 

[LarryinTN]

Married couple, job is 'home every night', and they used to work there.

This is a real long shot but their names wouldn't be Bob and Kathleen, would they?

 

[LarryinTN]

some of the best flights I have ever had were in the Twotter flying over the canyon, getting paid for it was just icing on the cake

Too bad the icing was always spread so thin!

 

[gutshotdraw]

This is a real long shot but their names wouldn't be Bob and Kathleen, would they?

Naw. He's flying a Hawker for NJ and she's on medical leave from FLOPS.

 

[C425Driver]

I find it interesting that everyone who's bashing Avantair on this thread doesn't work here. Been here over three years and still enjoying it. The couple who left wanted to be home every night and the Twotter job offered them that.

 

[LarryinTN]

Naw. He's flying a Hawker for NJ and she's on medical leave from FLOPS.

That's funny. I didn't realize that their names were so infamous!

From where did you know them? For me, it was Grand Canyon flying back in 1990.

Does Bob still talk about people having "good stickmanship"?

 

[gutshotdraw]

I'm guessing we know each other Larry. Does the jingle "Air Nevada....like we really care...." ring any bells?

Just ran into Bob last week, ironically enough. He didn't mention "stickmanship" but I think I actually like that term and may steal it....

 

[LarryinTN]

I'm guessing we know each other Larry.

Yes, we just might!

Tried to send you a PM but you have it turned off. Can you PM me with contact info? I'm sending an email to my "best guess" of who you might be.

 

[Noodles]

As someone that has worked for Avantair, there was never a happier day while I was there, then the day I quit! Now, I fly something bigger, faster, and I'm home every night.

 

[lowspeed]

Someone needs a cookie.....