Pilots at Airtran pick up open time???

[CoolSidePillow]

Just to clarify here...Swapping trips for different lengths of pairings or different days is ok. At the end of the month, one should have the same amount of flying they had at the beginning of the month. I pick up open time, but it is after I have dropped the trips I do not want.

I believe it is wrong to pick up any extra time.

Captains who are flying in the right seat ought to have something slashed in the parking lot when they get back from their trip.

Yeah, something just under their head. I hate this place. Too many Captains above 7 years seniority just a bunch of rednecks from GA. What a ********************hole place. I hate all these fvkrs and (insert Michael Richards quote here)

 

[400ADude]

ualdriver, the problem is that there are a lot more of the kind of guys that will do this sort of thing at AAI than at other carriers. At UAL, you have a small group that will do it, but we have a large number of them, especially on the Captain side.

Why is that??

 

[ron burgundy]

Scarlet, careful. You'll get a vacation (unpaid) from FlightInfo. One of the forum rules, can't list names here in a derogatory way.

Nothing stopping you from doing so on the internal boards, however. Feel free to post it on BD's board, I don't think he'd care, nor would the other mods (myself included). Something I think should happen sooner than later.

And yes, I've flown with that CA you're speaking of.

I have no heartburn if someone does a vertical trade or swaps some days around, as long as they don't vary a large amount (more than an hour or so) from their original Line Value. Guys and gals shouldn't have to suffer just because they weren't furloughed, but they shouldn't BENEFIT because people were furloughed and they can pad their wallet.

On a related note, I hope Christine Janning is on this board. SHE ROCKS! Other pilots should have the testicular fortitude that this girl exudes. Her husband should be proud of a wife being that dedicated to standing up for what is right, even if she's now the sole bread winner and has painted a target on herself!

Correct sir!! I did that ONCE,not even in a derogatory manner (put an emp# with it..bad juju)

 

[carl p]

I was back in ATL cleaning out my crash pad and on the bus back to the terminal, I was talking to an FO who was talking about picking up some open time because he can't survive on 70 hrs. I told him to try and make it on 0 hrs and as long as people have that attitude we'll be on the street even longer. What a tool!!!


(AT club 169)

 

[Wesb737fo]

Yeah, something just under their head. I hate this place. Too many Captains above 7 years seniority just a bunch of rednecks from GA. What a ********************hole place. I hate all these fvkrs and (insert Michael Richards quote here)

It isn't news that you would post something like this. Remember do not judge, for you may be judged. If you are at AirTran and you haven't quit, you need to do so today.

 

[SkiFishFly]

Yeah, something just under their head. I hate this place. Too many Captains above 7 years seniority just a bunch of rednecks from GA. What a ********************hole place. I hate all these fvkrs and (insert Michael Richards quote here)

Perhaps you need to go work someplace else...

 

[pipe]

Scarlet, careful. You'll get a vacation (unpaid) from FlightInfo. One of the forum rules, can't list names here in a derogatory way.

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This is a good example of why we're all such a bunch of pu$$ieS. Putting those names on here would not be "in a derogatory way".

If it is a fact that someone picked up open time, it is a fact. They made a decision to pick up an open trip. It is not a privileged piece of information.

It is really the same as posting lists of sexual offenders. The courts have ruled that to be just fine.

The lawyers have made everyone in this country scared of their own shadows.

PIPE

 

[Whine Lover]

Burgundy...What's this about being a "Registered User" I see under so many peoples names here? What is it we are supposed to be using?

Is that like a "Registered Offender" or what?

Remember..."Vote for Pedro" and buy my Shirts.


The Lover of Whine,

Big R

 

[CRJDog]

ualdriver, the problem is that there are a lot more of the kind of guys that will do this sort of thing at AAI than at other carriers. At UAL, you have a small group that will do it, but we have a large number of them, especially on the Captain side.

You hit the nail on the head. It's a common trait of an EAL scab.

 

[DonVerita]

You hit the nail on the head. It's a common trait of an EAL scab.

The number of EAL scabs here is no more than 1% of the total pilot group. How many still remain at CAL? How about at UAL?

The problem is not the 1% of scabs. Their silent minority no longer influences anyone since they find themselves vastly outnumbered.

The problem is the attitude of fear, complacency, and selfishness that their presence here over the years has fostered. That cancer is going to require major surgery to rectify.

Fortunately for us, we have a lot of very good doctors here. Just give them a scalpal and let them get to work.

Is there a hidden meaning in this? You bet there is.

 

[rajflyboy]

The number of EAL scabs here is no more than 1% of the total pilot group. How many still remain at CAL? How about at UAL?

The problem is not the 1% of scabs. Their silent minority no longer influences anyone since they find themselves vastly outnumbered.

The problem is the attitude of fear, complacency, and selfishness that their presence here over the years has fostered. That cancer is going to require major surgery to rectify.

Fortunately for us, we have a lot of very good doctors here. Just give them a scalpal and let them get to work.

Is there a hidden meaning in this? You bet there is.

Worst thing is most of em are in the training Department. They control the checkride! Pink Slips. You guys need to get them out soon!

 

[gearup5]

i dropped 18 hours this month. I think 88 hours with guys on the street is way to much.

 

[newnan]

Agree completely, gearup5. Much over guarantee with 169 on the street tells Mgmt that you support them 100% and will be happy to pick up the slack.

Personally dropped two 4-days and picked up a two day (net loss of 32 hours) on the 28th of Aug. at noon for the Sept. bid. I'm not going to benefit financially on the backs of the 169 furloughed.

 

[Captain Jeff]

I am at 60 hours for the month. Not so much to support the furloughed guys as this place sucks....

 

[Jetpipeovht]

Worst thing is most of em are in the training Department. They control the checkride! Pink Slips. You guys need to get them out soon!

Too bad they are like Herpes. You will never get rid of them. SCAB-F*CKERS!

 

[ron burgundy]

Burgundy...What's this about being a "Registered User" I see under so many peoples names here? What is it we are supposed to be using?

Is that like a "Registered Offender" or what?

Remember..."Vote for Pedro" and buy my Shirts.


The Lover of Whine,

Big R

I say "deport pedro", just my opinion. However, I have purchased several of your shirts from the website and I gotta say..quality shirts (for a t-shirt).

As far as user/offender, I can neither confirm nor deny any of the said allegations. I just do what I do man. That's how I roll!

 

[rajflyboy]

Too bad they are like Herpes. You will never get rid of them. SCAB-F*CKERS!

Thats Hilarious!!!

The Pilots could do a lot of things to push them out if they had the Balls to do it. But... I think they are too worried about "Pink Slips"

 

[maxblast72]

Personally dropped two 4-days and picked up a two day (net loss of 32 hours) on the 28th of Aug. at noon for the Sept. bid. I'm not going to benefit financially on the backs of the 169 furloughed.

Management is glad you are doing this as it helps reduce costs. By you dropping these trips, they don't have to pay you for going over 70 and instead they can preassign these trips to reserves who weren't going to credit over 70 hours this month anyway.

We already had the arguement on the NPA forum about everyone flying 60-65 hours and keeping everyone on the property (like Jetblue is doing). Mike Best said it would bankrupt half our pilots so he wasn't in support of it. Thus management built the lines to a normal LVI value for September creating a crapload of reserve pilots.

 

[Captain Overs]

The companies know what they need to furlough to reduce costs to an acceptable level. I don't see picking up open time as keeping you on the street. Those trips are going to be flown no matter what.

Why shouldn't the senior guys still be able to fly as much as they want? Everybody always talks about the benefits of seniority but why should a senior pilot suffer? Its not his fault you got hired after he did.

 

[Old Crow]

That's what's wrong with the whole world, it's everyone for himself regardless of how it affects others.