Pilots are dumb

[EMBpilot]

What a garbage career. I cannot believe people are actually dropping tens of thousands of dollars in training to actually get a shot at making 20K/year in addition to being on the road half the month.

I have thrown the towel in from an established career to make a career elsewhere.

How do people justify spending almost six-figures on training for a job that pays minimum wage? Last time I checked the clerk at 7-11 did not pay $75k to train for his job(he is too smart to do that).

Before long widebodies will be flown for $55k/year.

Pilots were once pricks, now they are just dumb. Continue the stabs in the back and enjoy the work and medical and check rides for dirt money. No thanks...
Enjoy

Why don't you combine the two jobs?

I fly as little as I can, dropping as much as I can and take every reduced flying line, COLA etc.
Run 2 businesses on the side and average 70K/month.

Keep my love and passion for aviation and enjoy life thanks to working with my brain.

This is America, anyone can do that.

 

[Beetle007]

Why don't you combine the two jobs?

I fly as little as I can, dropping as much as I can and take every reduced flying line, COLA etc.
Run 2 businesses on the side and average 70K/month.

What types of businesses do you run on the side?

 

[say again]

I certainly don't want to attack you, but there's gotta be more to your story.

Alimony and child support?? hahahaha

 

[BOYCAPTAIN]

What a garbage career. I cannot believe people are actually dropping tens of thousands of dollars in training to actually get a shot at making 20K/year in addition to being on the road half the month.

I have thrown the towel in from an established career to make a career elsewhere.

How do people justify spending almost six-figures on training for a job that pays minimum wage? Last time I checked the clerk at 7-11 did not pay $75k to train for his job(he is too smart to do that).

Before long widebodies will be flown for $55k/year.

Pilots were once pricks, now they are just dumb. Continue the stabs in the back and enjoy the work and medical and check rides for dirt money. No thanks...
Enjoy

i have no idea what you are talking about....!

 

[Vingus]

125k isn't really much if you're raising a family especially someplace expensive like on the east coast. First of all, you've got to max our your 401k and your IRA because your pension was robbed from you. That knocks the 125k down to 105k. Toss in health insurance union dues and we're down to 100k before taxes.

Now taxes will probably eat up at least 20k of your 100k so now you're down to 80k. So we went from 125k to 80k without even spending a dime. A mortgage on the east coast could easily cost you 30k a year, now we're down to 50k. Two car payments+insurance now we're down to 40k. Food for a family of four, 12k a year now we're at 28k. Heating/cooling/water etc bills 5k, we're down to 23k.

You throw in some private schools or savings for the kids college funds and that 125k is all but spent minus some spare change for incidentals.

Spot on analysis!

 

[Whine Lover]

Spot on analysis!

Not in my opinion.

Yes, you could spend those amounts on the items listed....But, you don't have to.


YKMKR

 

[HalinTexas]

What a garbage career. I cannot believe people are actually dropping tens of thousands of dollars in training to actually get a shot at making 20K/year in addition to being on the road half the month.

I have thrown the towel in from an established career to make a career elsewhere.

How do people justify spending almost six-figures on training for a job that pays minimum wage? Last time I checked the clerk at 7-11 did not pay $75k to train for his job(he is too smart to do that).

Before long widebodies will be flown for $55k/year.

Pilots were once pricks, now they are just dumb. Continue the stabs in the back and enjoy the work and medical and check rides for dirt money. No thanks...
Enjoy

Nope, we're still pricks. And idiots, particularly those that fly past an airport and blame ATC.

 

[HalinTexas]

Not in my opinion.

Yes, you could spend those amounts on the items listed....But, you don't have to.


YKMKR

I'm with Ramz on this one.

This post has GOT to be a joke.

 

[Kalifornia]

Why don't you combine the two jobs?

I fly as little as I can, dropping as much as I can and take every reduced flying line, COLA etc.
Run 2 businesses on the side and average 70K/month.

Keep my love and passion for aviation and enjoy life thanks to working with my brain.

This is America, anyone can do that.

Good for you, but that still takes good fortune for it to work out that way and only a small number can really make that work. For this to happen, the airline has to be overstaffed, not be furloughing, and be willing to dish out leaves. Plus running a small business whether real estate, broker, franchise, or other is no guarantee. $70K a month is $840K a year. You could afford to own multiple GA airplanes so I'm not sure why you'd even bother.

 

[GoingHot]

I certainly don't want to attack you, but there's gotta be more to your story.

Yeah! I'm thinking "Nose Candy".

 

[DC4boy]

The original poster is dead on. The career is a joke. Most like me figure that out too late.[/



Don't lump all of aviation into the airline career. I make six figures in five months, never see the same thing twice, and never spend more than a handful of nights away from home....oh, and union protection

Pretty good career if you ask me

 

[Phrogs4ever]

The original poster is dead on. The career is a joke. Most like me figure that out too late.[/



Don't lump all of aviation into the airline career. I make six figures in five months, never see the same thing twice, and never spend more than a handful of nights away from home....oh, and union protection

Pretty good career if you ask me

You may have a pretty good JOB, but the career as a whole is still less than desireable.

 

[crj567]

Good for you, but that still takes good fortune for it to work out that way and only a small number can really make that work. For this to happen, the airline has to be overstaffed, not be furloughing, and be willing to dish out leaves. Plus running a small business whether real estate, broker, franchise, or other is no guarantee. $70K a month is $840K a year. You could afford to own multiple GA airplanes so I'm not sure why you'd even bother.

Absolutely correct. This guy is completely full of crap-if he was pulling in 70k per month, he would not waste his time driving a flying dump truck all over the country. Anyone with that kind of coin would be absolutely crazy to fly professionally for a living. This job involves a lot of flying when you would rather not-owning your owwn private plane means that you would get to choose whn you fly for fun.

The original poster has very good point: Why the hell would any civilian get into this field today? Spending more money than law school or about the same as medical school for a job that pays 20k per year with very poor expectations of advancement in the near future is just nutty!

 

[Wesb737fo]

I made 125k this year as a 320 FO and I am barely getting by...

Watch David Ramsey on Fox Business News on Sat mornings, he'll help you change that.

sorry for the thread hijack......

Dave Ramsey is the man. Jan 10 will be the day I pay off the last of my 15K in credit card debt. Already paid off the car. It's pretty simple. Don't spend more than you make.

.....now back to the ranting........

 

[Nindiri]

How do people justify spending almost six-figures on training for a job that pays minimum wage? Last time I checked the clerk at 7-11 did not pay $75k to train for his job(he is too smart to do that).

You paid 75K to get your ratings? Wow. No wonder you're pissed.