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No pilot shortage. Bullsh!t!

I'm in my 10th year at ATA. Made $77K last year (mostly 9th year, B737FO pay). I would leave in a heartbeat if I didn't have to take another 50% paycut.

I'm still doing better than a topped out junglejet CA at TSA, which is where I'd be if I hadn't left.

When you can make a sideways move without divorcing your wife, neglecting your kids, selling your house, and living in an old mini-van down by the river, then I'll believe there's a pilot shortage.
 
Why be a $45K 1st year Capt?

....

In general we deserve more.


This $45k per year RJ Captain crap has to stop.
I agree why would anyone work for $45K when there are higher paying jobs out, unless of course the $45K pilot does not yet have the credentials to make the move, NJ starts around 65K, 1st yr. NJ pilots can make close to 80K by working more. So don't make the 45K as the average pilot wage. Even at USA Jet $100K is doable after 7-8 years
 
Seriously? Wow, that is some pretty stupid advice. Last truck driver I knew that actually made more than a pilot did long haul, and was GOOOOONE. I suggest you stop giving people advice, like...FOREVER.


Kiss my ass. The choice I am giving is spending a few hundred bucks and a couple weeks to get a $50k starting salary or spending $50k and 6 months to two years to make $20k. I don't know about your schedule, but most pilots are GOOOOOOOONE too! Tool.
 
Kiss my ass. The choice I am giving is spending a few hundred bucks and a couple weeks to get a $50k starting salary or spending $50k and 6 months to two years to make $20k. I don't know about your schedule, but most pilots are GOOOOOOOONE too! Tool.

Me kissing your ass doesn't change the fact that you're a total retard. Why dont you take that advice and put in into practice yourself, if not then just shove it up your already fornicated A****. There's nothing worst than a frustrated do***bag trying to frustrate others, and even worst a dou****bag that's still flying for a living, and who decided to do this career and is now pissed b/c he's not rich. You wanna get rich? buy a lottery ticket. Idiot.
 
Me kissing your ass doesn't change the fact that you're a total retard. Why dont you take that advice and put in into practice yourself, if not then just shove it up your already fornicated A****. There's nothing worst than a frustrated do***bag trying to frustrate others, and even worst a dou****bag that's still flying for a living, and who decided to do this career and is now pissed b/c he's not rich. You wanna get rich? buy a lottery ticket. Idiot.

Nice. Your name calling doesn't change the logic of spending $50k to make $20k, or $500 to make $50k. Idiot.
 
Nice. Your name calling doesn't change the logic of spending $50k to make $20k, or $500 to make $50k. Idiot.

Ummmm ok...Sooo did you get your flight training for free idiot? Sounds like you spent more than 50K and are now pissed b/c you're making 20K. Did someone put a gun to your head and force you to make this decision? IDIOT
 
Ummmm ok...Sooo did you get your flight training for free idiot? Sounds like you spent more than 50K and are now pissed b/c you're making 20K. Did someone put a gun to your head and force you to make this decision? IDIOT

Sorry, you sound a little insecure at having someone compare your "honorable profession" of being a pilot to the "lowly profession" of a truck driver. A little elitist, no? Get a grip fella.
 
Sorry, you sound a little insecure at having someone compare your "honorable profession" of being a pilot to the "lowly profession" of a truck driver. A little elitist, no? Get a grip fella.

This is what i'm talking about man, "YOUR HONORABLE PROFESSION"????? You mean "OUR HONORABLE PROFESSION"
Not everyone makes 20K initially. My first flying Job I made 40K. Secondly 20K is what you and many other have agreed to make for the first year in order to "get" the experience you need to make more money. You dont like it? Spend 200K and become a Doctor, oh yeah, you'll make less than a waiter there too for the first few years. You wanna be a redneck truck driver and make 50K? then by all means, leave flightinfo and head for truck driving school. Time to grow up Junior.
 
This is what i'm talking about man, "YOUR HONORABLE PROFESSION"????? You mean "OUR HONORABLE PROFESSION"
Not everyone makes 20K initially. My first flying Job I made 40K. Secondly 20K is what you and many other have agreed to make for the first year in order to "get" the experience you need to make more money. You dont like it? Spend 200K and become a Doctor, oh yeah, you'll make less than a waiter there too for the first few years. You wanna be a redneck truck driver and make 50K? then by all means, leave flightinfo and head for truck driving school. Time to grow up Junior.

Ha ha! I like keeping this all about you. You are making a hell of a lot of assumptions "junior". Good for you that you were able to start at 40k after spending much more to get there. Congratulations. Guess what, I started at more than that. I win. I started flying when $10k would get you zero hours to ATP. My guess is you were still wetting your diapers at the time. Meanwhile the majority of posts on this thread agree with me that pilots are way underpaid for the investment. "Redneck truckdriver". Nice attitude, you must be a real pleasure to work with. I have family members that drove trucks for a living and had nicer houses, boats and quality of life than ANY pilot I know this side of FedEx. Keep digging the hole, genius.
 

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