Picking up extra work with guys on the street

[waveflyer]

Gut- isn't the 18 day part of your bid - ie: if no one bid it, then it would go to the more junior? I'd think getting rid of 18 day would have to come from union leadership negotiating w/ mgmt, not individual choice-

The peer pressure is about individuals making choices that exacerbate the problem-

 

[CA1900]

The 15-day is the only schedule that can be junior-assigned, to a maximum of 10% of the group.

 

[waveflyer]

So the 18 day is a choice and should be treated the same as extending...

Simple, no matter how you're doing it, if you're flying extra when others are on the street- that's pretty f^cked up-

 

[gutshotdraw]

So the 18 day is a choice and should be treated the same as extending...

Simple, no matter how you're doing it, if you're flying extra when others are on the street- that's pretty f^cked up-

And I don't do either. Funny thing is, a lot of people railing against voluntary extended days work the 18 day.

 

[waveflyer]

Well that's hypocritical

 

[LearLove]

Apparenty I'm a time hog. Crewtrac for Dec11 shows my sked blocked for 11,000.26 hours of pay. I'm printing that puppy out and holding them to it.

 

[Hpilot]

Stay in your RJ with your 3800 hrs. In time you'll get the bigger picture.

Actually, he'll get hired at Alaska and will eventually be they're number one head senior wanker. Screwing everyone junior, every chance he gets.

Seriously, these @ss h*l*s have to come from somewhere.

 

[say again]

Don't forget the numerous trips that NJ has to sell to vendors to cover trips.

 

[BentOver]

Don't forget the numerous trips that NJ has to sell to vendors to cover trips.

450 or so this current quarter is what's predicted...

 

[OPECJet]

I really don't think this belongs in a 121 forum, but since it is...

Our 121 friends for the most part aren't privy to our business model. It is different from theirs, and required a different mode of thinking. Staffing at our company is determined by airframes, and airframes only. Picking up extended days will not, and does not effect staffing levels.

There is a large flaw in this method of thinking.

It's true that staffing is predicated on the number of airframes, 5 pilots per frame minimum. It was proven that they can't cover the schedule with that number without extended days thus bringing the realistic minimum higher than that. The minimum staffing becomes artificial driven by the number of pilots willing to extend. The more extenders, the closer to 5 per frame the company can staff.

The argument is moot anyway in that the majority of the voluntary extended days are in the GV where 7 day tours don't work. The company has the option to negotiate language that works for them but chooses not to for a multitude of reasons.