PCL ALPA sues Pinnacle Airlines

[Carl_Spackler]

I'm not standing up for a lot of the things the white house has spent moneyon, but when it comes to taxing my salary and giving it to the lazy bums who won't work the dems are clearly the "worser" of two evils. Nothing is free. It may be at no cost to some, but the money comes from some where. Dems have no problem with re-distributing wealth.

If the agreements were made under duress, they should be able to get them overturned. The fact of the matter is that 1113(C) is law, maybe not a good law, but a law none the less. Some times the law works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't.

 

[Flyprdu]

I'm not standing up for a lot of the things the white house has spent moneyon, but when it comes to taxing my salary and giving it to the lazy bums who won't work the dems are clearly the "worser" of two evils. Nothing is free. It may be at no cost to some, but the money comes from some where. Dems have no problem with re-distributing wealth.

If the agreements were made under duress, they should be able to get them overturned. The fact of the matter is that 1113(C) is law, maybe not a good law, but a law none the less. Some times the law works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't.

This is what cracks me up about pilots- where personal idealistic political beliefs come in direct conflict with what's beneficial for his/her career. With this c'est la vie attitude towards labor relations, but extremely motivated to make sure their people on the Hill are trying to save Terry Schiavo... we'll always be taking one step forward, two steps back.

Despite what Limbaugh and O'Reilly might tell you, Democrats in charge aren't going to turn us into a Socialist state. And besides, how could it be any worse than the last 8 years?? Seriously.

 

[PCL_128]

I'm not standing up for a lot of the things the white house has spent moneyon, but when it comes to taxing my salary and giving it to the lazy bums who won't work the dems are clearly the "worser" of two evils. Nothing is free. It may be at no cost to some, but the money comes from some where. Dems have no problem with re-distributing wealth.

I don't like redistribution of wealth anymore than you do, but I have to prioritize. The government giving the welfare bums a free check may be distasteful, but the loss of our pensions, pay, work rules, right to strike, etc... is far more distasteful to me.

If the agreements were made under duress, they should be able to get them overturned. The fact of the matter is that 1113(C) is law, maybe not a good law, but a law none the less. Some times the law works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't.

Whether 1113 is a law or not doesn't change the fact that the agreements were made under duress. No one can argue that these agreements were truly voluntary. "Sometimes the law works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't?" What kind of attitude is that? The law is purposefully weighted in favor of management. We need pro-labor candidates that will fix the law so it does work in our favor, or is at the very least fair to both sides. The deck is stacked against us to an unbelievable level. It's about time that we did something about it.

 

[Smarta$$]

I'm not standing up for a lot of the things the white house has spent moneyon, but when it comes to taxing my salary and giving it to the lazy bums who won't work the dems are clearly the "worser" of two evils. Nothing is free. It may be at no cost to some, but the money comes from some where. Dems have no problem with re-distributing wealth.

If the agreements were made under duress, they should be able to get them overturned. The fact of the matter is that 1113(C) is law, maybe not a good law, but a law none the less. Some times the law works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't.

YOUR A CRJ captain! How bad would a distribution of wealth affect you? Seriously. YOU ARE NOT WEALTHY.

 

[TurboAWD]

If the gas tax had been raised years ago like it should have, we wouldn't have as big a problem as we have today.

I'm no bleeding heart, but the current version of "conservative" in this country is broken.

Turbo

 

[BoilerUP]

I'm no bleeding heart, but the current version of "conservative" in this country is broken.

Agreed...because there are very few true, honest-to-God conservatives that exist anymore.

 

[Inconceivable]

YOUR A CRJ captain! How bad would a distribution of wealth affect you? Seriously. YOU ARE NOT WEALTHY.

I will remember to my dying day what a UAL 744 captain told me over a decade ago:

"Three acres and a riding mower doesn't make you part of the landed gentry."

 

[arthompson]

You can talk all you want about the law being weighted toward management. What people don't realize is that the same managements that would use the 1113 (C) process in a lassiez-faire <sp?> manner would just shut the company down if they didn't have that option.

 

[DoinTime]

You can talk all you want about the law being weighted toward management. What people don't realize is that the same managements that would use the 1113 (C) process in a lassiez-faire <sp?> manner would just shut the company down if they didn't have that option.

If the company were shut down then who would get the millions in bonus money when they came out of bankruptcy? Steinland made more money for taking NWA through bankruptcy than he would have if he would have just concentrated on running the airline. The fact is that corporations "game" the bankruptcy process for personal gain.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

If you donate a bunch of money to "pro pilot" politicians, you will have to deal with their anti-liberty agenda.

What good is a higher pay rate if they raise your income tax, gas tax, sales tax, property tax, etc?

And GOP candidates don't do that? I used to live in a 'GOP' town, a certain well known suburb of Chicago, one where Bush made at least 4 visits during each of his last two campaigns, because he and his handlers knew they would find sypathetic audiences.

Every year for the last 7 years, I have watched my Federal taxes go down, yet mysteriously my property taxes(Republican town administration), gasoline taxes and state income taxes (George Ryan, GOP governor of Illinois) have all gone UP. All of my local friends, all GOP supporters (and I used to be one too. Will be again, if the GOP ever gets it's act together again), are dumbfounded by the current crop, and many are planning to defect to the Dems, for the same reasons I am.

Raising taxes is not reserved just for the Dems, Republicans do it too, they just call it 'user fees' or some other name.

A very wise former boss of mine said once "Vote your job, because without that, nothing else matters. The best principals in the world don't pay the bills or keep you and your family warm at night."
He was spot on.

Peace.

Rekks