Options Pilots About To Draw A Line In The Sand!!!

[BE40Driver]

Migs

How many of us MIGS will vote NO to a contract and shut down Flight Options? or Kenn just locks us out in OCT and rehires the guys that are furloughed and hungry.

A contract is a BIG IF! We need 50+1 to vote yes.

 

[dime line]

The 1108 is now pushing away the pilots that are not current with dues to be the new SFO's (good ol boys club) of Flight options. Very sad.

Oh you mean the scum that refuse to do their part. I can live with that.

 

[TurboHonda]

The 1108 is now pushing away the pilots that are not current with dues to be the new SFO's (good ol boys club) of Flight options. Very sad.

They can become Ricci's eunuchs for all I care. Once they scab they're nothing to me.

 

[jetwash]

A contract is a BIG IF! We need 50+1 to vote yes.

We need?????

Can I assume that you are a MIG and will be voting?

If not, don't worry about it. I will vote NO unless it is industry standard.

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

We need?????

Can I assume that you are a MIG and will be voting?

If not, don't worry about it. I will vote NO unless it is industry standard.

Vote on what??? There will be no TA. Uncle Kenn will NEVER agree to one therefore there will be nothing to vote on.

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

Whats next

What if no agreement is reached during the 30-day cooling off period?
If no agreement is reached by the end of the 30-day cooling off period, the parties are free to exercise "self-help." This means that the carrier is free to impose its last offer, temporarily cease operations or engage in other self-help activity (e.g., hiring permanent replacements). The union is free to strike or engage in other self-help activity.

http://www.ipapilot.org/media/rla.asp#What if no agreement is reached during the 30-day cooling off period?

This was copied directly from the IPA (UPS pilots union) website. Note the part about hiring "permanent replacements"

 

[netjetwife]

Theoretically possible, but extremely difficult to pull off. The FLOPs know the owners wouldn't wait while replacements were hired and the training bill would be huge. Not to mention, could they even find that many pilots willing to be forever branded a scab....:erm:

Managers frequently use the replacement threat to intimidate the workforce. My husband wouldn't let it stop him if he was an Options pilot and I don't see those guys caving after coming this far. NJW

 

[jetwash]

Vote on what??? There will be no TA. Uncle Kenn will NEVER agree to one therefore there will be nothing to vote on.

Then why are you so worried?


Get on with your life and enjoy the $100 per year raise that is in place.

Leave the union to negotiate for its members.

 

[Frac Cap]

I know Kenn doesn't like unions, but I don't think he would want to be regarded as the Frank Lorenzo of the fractional world. Then how would he be able to come out with the sequel, management by trust part 2, the unions best steward.

 

[brokeflyer]

frank lorenzo

look out!!!!

Projectile vomit!!!

 

[jetwash]

Then how would he be able to come out with the sequel, management by trust part 2, the unions best steward.

Hey, no trash talking the book.

It has been keeping my coffee table level for the last year.

 

[TurboHonda]

Don't bet on it

I know Kenn doesn't like unions, but I don't think he would want to be regarded as the Frank Lorenzo of the fractional world. Then how would he be able to come out with the sequel, management by trust part 2, the unions best steward.

Kenn is such a fraud that he can put a positive spin on anything. He would define sodomy as "simply following too close". Any pilot that accepts anything Kenn says, instead of a binding contract, deserves all the grief that will follow.

 

[harley30344]

Theoretically possible, but extremely difficult to pull off. The FLOPs know the owners wouldn't wait while replacements were hired and the training bill would be huge. Not to mention, could they even find that many pilots willing to be forever branded a scab....:erm:

Managers frequently use the replacement threat to intimidate the workforce. My husband wouldn't let it stop him if he was an Options pilot and I don't see those guys caving after coming this far. NJW

yada yada yada---again!

 

[Myster79]

Kenn is such a fraud that he can put a positive spin on anything. He would define sodomy as "simply following too close". Any pilot that accepts anything Kenn says, instead of a binding contract, deserves all the grief that will follow.

I just blew lemonade out my nose! Serious though I agree, we can not accept anything less than a binding contract.

 

[brokeflyer]

yada yada yada---again!

you have the worst attitude of a pilot, let alone a NetJets pilot that I've ever seen.

 

[netjetwife]

Hey, no trash talking the book.

It has been keeping my coffee table level for the last year.

Interesting use! In some cultures it's considered an insult to show the bottom of your foot (which is associated with dirt) to the person you're sitting near. KR's book could also be used to boost a monitor, making it easier to keep up with the contract battle. The idea of poetic justice is appealing, isn't it?...

 

[harley30344]

you have the worst attitude of a pilot, let alone a NetJets pilot that I've ever seen.

Come on BF--lighten up--take another drink or 3...

 

[brokeflyer]

Come on BF--lighten up--take another drink or 3...

well since you brought it up, that is the most sence I've heard you make yet...

lol

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

Theoretically possible, but extremely difficult to pull off. The FLOPs know the owners wouldn't wait while replacements were hired and the training bill would be huge. Not to mention, could they even find that many pilots willing to be forever branded a scab....:erm:

Managers frequently use the replacement threat to intimidate the workforce. My husband wouldn't let it stop him if he was an Options pilot and I don't see those guys caving after coming this far. NJW

I don't see the scab label being a big impedement. The teeth in the scab label is that it is a career killer. Considering the bad blood between the IBT and ALPA thanks to the IBTs monumentally stupid decision to take in the GoJets alter ego scabs I don't see ALPA honoring an IBT list. It may stop someone from getting a job at Chautauqua but that would be about it. Unfortunatly there are a lot of people with low morals. One only need to look at BT and his staff to prove it.

 

[Frac Cap]

You are obviously a troll that is pro management which anyone can see by the direction your posts always go. Who knows, you could be kenn himself trying to scare the weak. But you forget one thing, the weak don't get to vote on this contract. Why don't you ask what the fallout might be with the customers who are about to book their holliday travel, or planning on buying flight time with a company that is about to have a major labor problem right at the start of peak travel. Everyone knows that most of next years sales will, or won't happen at the end of this year. It just won't happen. You will have people rushing to turn in their Jet Pass cards so they can get dependable travel elsewhere.

We are in a service buisness. How can a company try to pretend that they have "the best pilots in the industry" (not my words, managements sales pitch to customers) if all we have left are bottom of the barrel scabbs that couldn't get jobs elsewhere. And with as shakey Flight Options has been, does anyone actually believe that a pilot would want to take a chance and cross a picket line to be forever branded a scabb? It's not like you are crossing a line to get into a blue chip company like Northwest or United that have been around for decades, and will be around for decades more. We are talking about a company that has lost 70 percent of their pilots in less than 5 years. Its a huge gamble that most pilots won't take. But you already knew that.