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ACL65PILOT said:
See even you do not like the 9!
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Oh i loved the -9, in fact i could has switched off of it a while ago but i stayed on it because I did like it. I only switched now because i have a little one coming next year and i wanted to get training out of the way before i have a newborn at home. I wont lie the added pay will be nice also.
 
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I understand that. I went through a training event with a new born. It sucked.

Which base are you going to be in?
 
ACL65PILOT said:
I understand that. I went through a training event with a new born. It sucked.

Which base are you going to be in?
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Yeah my son was 10 days old when i started with XJT and i told myself if i could help it i wouldnt do that again. DTW initially
 
It is the fact that I, he and a few others have decided that it is better to get along than fight. Debating the facts turned really ugly. Fact is that we are all going to be coworkers. When this passes, we need to be one team.

That does not mean I will not get in to the fray with one or two people on here, but truly it is not worth it. More fun than anything. Some people cannot debate the facts with out turning it in to a flame session. I do not desire to be of that group.
 
I can't wait until both ACL65pilot and Superpilot92 are my two FOs when I Captain a Delta A330 across the Atlantic from ATL. It will be FANTASTIC. Hey guys, you both will get free beers from me (third and fifth rounds only, please). :)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I would expect nothing else from you LEE.

Heck if I bid correctly, you may get my sorry rump as your relief pilot soon.
 
BOHICAgain said:
Whats up with the love on the board??



Super congrats on the baby I also have my second one on the way in May
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Congrats to you as well.:beer: This is my second also.

As far as the "love" goes, ACL pretty much hit it on the head. This site is meant for aviation discussions and debates and here as of late it has been more of a flamefest which has gotten very old. It may not seem like it sometimes on here but the majority of us all have the same career goals and life goals and the sooner we all realize that the sooner we can become a single unified pilot group.

General, I will fly with you if you pick up the 1st through the 5th rounds. I mean after all, with that super premium widebody paycheck you should be able to afford it.;) Spread the wealth :beer:
 
Superpilot92 said:
Congrats to you as well.:beer: This is my second also.

As far as the "love" goes, ACL pretty much hit it on the head. This site is meant for aviation discussions and debates and here as of late it has been more of a flamefest which has gotten very old. It may not seem like it sometimes on here but the majority of us all have the same career goals and life goals and the sooner we all realize that the sooner we can become a single unified pilot group.

General, I will fly with you if you pick up the 1st through the 5th rounds. I mean after all, with that super premium widebody paycheck you should be able to afford it.;) Spread the wealth :beer:
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Well, ok, but that means the first couple rounds of beer are from the European McDonalds. The beer there is actually quite alright...for beer from a fast food joint.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
Well, ok, but that means the first couple rounds of beer are from the European McDonalds. The beer there is actually quite alright...for beer from a fast food joint.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
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As long as it is free, I don't know one pilot that would turn it down. Now they might complain about it, but they wont turn it down. :)
 
No I am just sick of dealing with people like you.
I have better things to do with my time.
No point in beating my head against a brick wall. Even I know that much.
 
General Lee said:
I can't wait until both ACL65pilot and Superpilot92 are my two FOs when I Captain a Delta A330 across the Atlantic from ATL. It will be FANTASTIC. Hey guys, you both will get free beers from me (third and fifth rounds only, please). :)


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Who should be so lucky? How much are Bud Lite's at a European McDonald's these days anyways?
 
Schwanker said:
I guess you could lump them into 3 categories then:

NWA's 60+ 747's/330s with DAL's 10 777s.

75/76 Class aircraft (large NB/tiny old WB)

737/A320/DC-9/MD-80

Combine those groupings with a dynamic list to consider respective retirements and you're getting closer. Without dynamic, this would be a huge windfall for the DAL side as DAL has very little premium widebody flying as they only have 10 777s-that's it!




Schwanker
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I have to say, that's a good way of putting it !

What is the standard Delta seating capacity for the basic 767? If I remember correctly the 757-300 was 224 passengers...and the most fuel efficient aircraft per pax.
 
jetflier said:
What is the standard Delta seating capacity for the basic 767? If I remember correctly the 757-300 was 224 passengers...and the most fuel efficient aircraft per pax.
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When arguing aircraft capacity, the only thing that should matter is the number of seats an aircraft is certified to carry. Anything less than that is a marketing choice and does not reflect to capabilities of the aircraft. This is the same argument that got both our groups to foolishly vote to allow a 90 seat jet on property (CRJ-900 and E-175) under the guise of 76 seats.

Keep arguing based on the number of seats management puts in the aircraft and you will lead us down the path of the Midwest pilots, where management wants to adjust pay based on fewer seats.
 
New to some of these terms....

jetflier said:
I have to say, that's a good way of putting it !

What is the standard Delta seating capacity for the basic 767? If I remember correctly the 757-300 was 224 passengers...and the most fuel efficient aircraft per pax.
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Excuse the ignorance, but what is a "dynamic seniority list"? Does the seniority list get reordered every year, month, day, or retirement? How does that work and is there one in play somewhere else in the industry? Thanks
 
Looks like this is shaping up to be the smoothest airline merger in history. Giddyeup.
 
They are, but I am sure that ours would be omitted in your plan. Furthermore, it is just way to complicated, and would be screwed up.
With Medical outs, etc it would make life a mess.
 
Of coarse. Anything close to dalpas proposal is a win for the premerger dal. pilots. You get to not only keep your posistion(which I agree you should)but benefit in upward movement created by the old farts we bring. You know at some point dals intl expansion will stop and with no significant retirements from your side for the next 8-10 years there will be very little movement nearterm. Good news is the sli won't be decided by anyone on this forum. FWIW, our latest update from flight ops mentioned that the first 12 787s will be 800s and next 6 900s plus the 50 options. That is the first mention of 900s I have seen.
 
Full of LUV said:
Excuse the ignorance, but what is a "dynamic seniority list"? Does the seniority list get reordered every year, month, day, or retirement? How does that work and is there one in play somewhere else in the industry? Thanks
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Huh? (sound of crickets)
 
What do you mean?

jetflier said:
Huh? (sound of crickets)
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What, am I delinquent on some basic pilot knowledge? I am not imersed in this subject and don't have time to read the proposals, figured that's what the arbitrators are getting paid good money to do, but what does NWA's "dynamic seniority" entail? If they truly end up with the top 400 spots, does everytime a NWA pilot retire, they hand their old seniority to the next in line so in essence NWA holds the top 400 spots for the next 35 years? I am truly unaware of the dynamic seniority list concept, does anyone else use this? Thanks
 
The jist of a dynamic list is that each side moves up as their retirements happen. I personally don't like the idea. Ultimately, NWA pilots should be given a credit for our up coming retirements or the Delta pilots should not be given much credit for their current positions which is a reflection of their retirements. In my humble opinion its a wash but you will never get a Delta pilot to agree. They got their retirements, want credit for their current positions(which is a result of their retirements) and then want our retirements. Pure BS.

PS
In a few posts, a delta pilot will mention that their future retirements will eclipse ours. The only problem with that is its 15 to 20 years away.
 
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