Now that SKW has different rates...

[purduej]

I feel I should mention that as a newhire as skyw I'm pulling in more money here than I was at Trans States on less flying (75hrs vs 90hrs), and the atmosphere among the crews is WAY better. That being said, the pay offer stunk. Voted it down.

 

[sweptback]

You don't have separate rates. You have a pay override for the 700/900. There is a difference.

 

[capt. megadeth]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

Maybe that 975 morons sold about 600 Bro pilots down the river.

 

[HelloNewman]

Without union protection who is going to enforce those rates?

Unions aren't always good protectors either. Look at Mesa they won a grievance, the company will not pay and there are no consequences as of yet. The grievance has being going on for over3 years for christ's sake. What about all the guys that left when/if the award finally gets paid out. If someone wins a grievance and the company doesn't pay then there should have already been consequences. The fact that it takes a federal judge to order it is a freaking joke. Maybe by the time our new agreement becomes amendable Mesa will finally pay it out. The problem is most of the Mesa pilots will probably be gone by then so the company wins anyway.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

That vote was symbolant of it's pilot group. I think someone mentioned it but if they didn't. The RJ boys sold out the EMB120 pilots. For the record you still have no spine and it's not a separate rate. It's an override and a very, very small one at that. Wake up...

 

[Headfake14]

So why the override all of a sudden? Is this JAs way of trying to keep ALPA off property? I think in the end it'll help get 'em over there. The vote didn't appear to be overwhelming...so there are a greater # cranky pilots now than there were before. I wonder when the stuff will start hitting the fan.

 

[jayme]

That vote was symbolant of it's pilot group. I think someone mentioned it but if they didn't. The RJ boys sold out the EMB120 pilots. For the record you still have no spine and it's not a separate rate. It's an override and a very, very small one at that. Wake up...

I voted "yes", and I'm just a sorry brasilia pilot. Is your mind blown?

I'm taking Nov and Dec off to be with my new baby, but I was on pace to make 70K (including money made off our voluntary stock purchase program, but not including the company's contributions to my 401k account). 70K to fly a 30 pax turboprop is just fine. I'm on reserve and rarely get called, so I work on some days off at time and a half. I typically fly 12 days a month.

By voting in an override for the bigger jets, we can start contract negotiations from a MUCH stronger position once ALPA is voted in.

I understand why there are SkyWest haters out there. It is shamefull that some of our pilots don't mind flying the bigger jets for the 50 rate. But there is nothing to see here. The jet pilots didn't sell out their brothers. Over 40% of the voters turned down the proposal, but only 25% of our pilots fly the brasilia.

 

[SkyNation]

You don't have separate rates. You have a pay override for the 700/900. There is a difference.

True.

and with those rates, we will be more competitive in securing new opportunities with our current/future major partners. our pilots will continue to take home more $ than our competitors, we will continue to solidify our financial position as a company, and we will continually look forward for ways to strengthen our position in the market. by doing so, we provide the best opportunities for our folks, whether they are here for the long haul or just until they move on.

airlines/pilot groups that cling to antiquated notions, mob mentality and anit-market structures will continue to stagnate, shrink, or cease to exist.

haters-UNITE!!! flame on!!!! bad spellers of the world-UNTIE!!!!

 

[Spicepilots]

Not to mention the fact that 30% of the pilots didn't even bother to vote. Whether they thought it wasn't worth their time, or that it was a forgone conclusion, who knows... to me it says that 30% don't really care that much.

 

[Steveair]

Do you have any fukcing clue how ignorant you are?
You've got senior FO's at Horizon that make more than SkyWest captains.
You will work several more days in any given time period to come close to what Horizon makes.

Seen what Express Jet makes?

Have you compared the 900 rates to Mesa's 900 rates.

You're down there with Mesa, GoJet's, and other bottom feeders.

Grow a pair. Find some pride.

Horizon FO's should be making more since there with the company for 8 years before they upgrade. SkyWest gets 12-18 days off per month.

Express Jet, according to airlinepilot central makes around the same and doesn't get performance rewards.... not to mention the worst domiciles ever.

The 900 rate does suck but there's no one that has a good rate on them.

What else ya got?

PS = Real mature post you put there. What are you, 18?

 

[bobbyice]

Everyone was so angry that SkyWest pilots got paid the same amount to fly the 200/700/900. Now the rates are different. Everyone is still angry. Go figure.

 

[ERJFO]

Horizon FO's should be making more since there with the company for 8 years before they upgrade. SkyWest gets 12-18 days off per month.

Express Jet, according to airlinepilot central makes around the same and doesn't get performance rewards.... not to mention the worst domiciles ever.

The 900 rate does suck but there's no one that has a good rate on them.

What else ya got?

PS = Real mature post you put there. What are you, 18?

Hey ballsack, at ExpressJet we get profit sharing that (this year) will be anywhere from 5-7% of your annual gross pay.

Senior lines can have up to 21 days off (not that I will ever hold one) and with the profit SKYW is making your "Jet" rates should be killing ours, now if you flew the 900/700 all the time you would just break even with us. Not to mention your newhire payrates are dispicable.

Our bases do blow tremendously but at least they can all be commuted into from almost any city in the country unlike 70% of your bases (PSP, SBA, SMF, FAT, TUS, COS, SBP, MRY)

Untill the pilot group at SkyWest as a whole grows a back-bone (I know there are alot of good guys there that want a fair contract and a union) don't compare yourself to pilot groups that are doing it right like ExpressJet and Horizon, especially when other CRJ 700 operators like Comair and ASA are getting screwed and backpeddled into your rates.

 

[Hootie9750]

Probably that it took ASA's ALPA to get YOUR rates changed. Without SKYW buying ASA and the negotiations we are in you would still be on your old rates.

Goodness, seriously WHY is nearly EVERY FO at ASA a 400hour c172-to-crj riddle fag??????

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

The short of it: pilots love to bitch about something; each knows more than their own management; somebody is always better off and worse off; blame always lies externally; everything fails for lack of unity; always want more--as long as those antecedants do not change, pilots will continue to gripe.

 

[greg52083]

Goodness, seriously WHY is nearly EVERY FO at ASA a 400hour c172-to-crj riddle fag??????

Jonny your mom needs to take away your computer and wash your mouth out with soap.

 

[viper548]

Our bases do blow tremendously but at least they can all be commuted into from almost any city in the country unlike 70% of your bases (PSP, SBA, SMF, FAT, TUS, COS, SBP, MRY)

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Those bases are pretty senior and most people at those bases live there.

 

[embdrvr]

Our bases do blow tremendously but at least they can all be commuted into from almost any city in the country unlike 70% of your bases (PSP, SBA, SMF, FAT, TUS, COS, SBP, MRY)

ORD - Junior base
IAH - Used to be a base. Practically had to hire street captains to staff it but it was just a prop base.
DEN - Not as junior as ORD but still fairly junior

With the exception of COS all of the bases you mentioned are incredibly senior for the RJ. Perhaps people prefer living in a nice place and not commuting to living in a nice place and commuting to a ********************hole.

I agree with you about how your bases blow tremendously. CAL has had to hire turboprop FO's because their bases blow equally badly.

Not sure where you're headed with the domicile comparison but it appears to be a deep hole.

 

[WateryGrave]

Goodness, seriously WHY is nearly EVERY FO at ASA a 400hour c172-to-crj riddle fag??????

You're right, we should all be in awe of your 2000 hr greatness. Jacka**

 

[NoBathroom]

Now the rates are different.

The rates aren't different. If the rates were different, there would be different pay scales for the -200 versus the -700/-900. There is an override. Soon, block and credit will be cut so that the override will equal what we originally started with.

 

[Hootie9750]

You're right, we should all be in awe of your 2000 hr greatness. Jacka**

That still doesnt answer why ASA puts 300 hr kids into jets? Is it because they went to riddle or because they sorted papers and answered phones for 4 months? But I guess you dont mind watching them, do ASA captains get babysitter overide pay?