Now that SKW has different rates...

[bobbyice]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Maybe that your 70 rates suck.

 

[TNPILOT]

Maybe that your 70 rates suck.

Exactly.

 

[AV8700]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

You don't have different rates, you have a credit for flying the 700/900

 

[TNPILOT]

You don't have different rates, you have a credit for flying the 700/900

And for Captains it amounts to about $2-4 per hour. What a joke.

 

[siucavflight]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

Without union protection who is going to enforce those rates?

 

[flyby]

You

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

Name-calling posters on flightinfo that go out of their way to start a fight.

 

[jehtplane]

Name-calling posters on flightinfo that go out of their way to start a fight.

The truth hurts doesn't it, those rates SUCK

 

[generaltso]

The truth hurts doesn't it, those rates SUCK

Just like at every other regional out there!

 

[DenverCrashpad]

The "hourly" rates still suck but SkyWest people are paid better than just about every other regional I know. Horizon guys, for example, have a higher rate but can't get more than (I believe...), 92 hours in a 4 or 5 week bid. Sorry, but that doesn't add up in the end...

 

[embdrvr]

The "hourly" rates still suck but SkyWest people are paid better than just about every other regional I know. Horizon guys, for example, have a higher rate but can't get more than (I believe...), 92 hours in a 4 or 5 week bid. Sorry, but that doesn't add up in the end...

Do you have any fukcing clue how ignorant you are?
You've got senior FO's at Horizon that make more than SkyWest captains.
You will work several more days in any given time period to come close to what Horizon makes.

Seen what Express Jet makes?

Have you compared the 900 rates to Mesa's 900 rates.

You're down there with Mesa, GoJet's, and other bottom feeders.

Grow a pair. Find some pride.

 

[hockeypilot44]

How are Skywest pilots supposed to fight for raises when pilots like Comair's and Mesaba's are voting in paycuts?

 

[imacdog]

Possibly becasue SKYW is far from bankrupt. Comair and Mesaba are fighting in court to keep what they have, or at least not have everything thrown out. Meanwhile, SKYW is making record profits and expanding at a record pace, and you guys vote in a 1% pay raise (well, 0.0% for the hard-working EMB drivers). That 25 cent raise for the new hires (still 20% less than many regionals) is impressive too. Congratulations.

 

[nimtz]

Longest d@mn 18 months I've ever seen...

 

[zawillif]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

Probably that it took ASA's ALPA to get YOUR rates changed. Without SKYW buying ASA and the negotiations we are in you would still be on your old rates.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Vote YES - YES. It should be no surprise that we would not get a healthy pay raise through SAPA. I used to be a rabid anti-ALPA'er, but I think I am now starting to see the light - or darkness - whatever you want to call it... Being such a profitable and prosperous airline, we have the opportunity to set the bar high, but now it's pretty clear that we can't do that without representation.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Horizon guys, for example, have a higher rate but can't get more than (I believe...), 92 hours in a 4 or 5 week bid.

Line holder guarantee at QX is 92 hours for a 5 week bid (equivalent to 80 hour guarantee for montly bids). A line can be built to a maximum of 105 hours. You can credit whatever you can fly/rig. 92 hours is a guarantee, not a limit.

Just to set the record straight...

(Oh yeah, 10% 401(k) match, too. )

 

[wanagethi]

wake up skywest grunts, your downward pressure is what is killing mesaba and comair, if you would have got a real 700/900 pay rate everyone else can raise the bar instead of lower it, and if you call working more to get paid more good your crazy, the object is to work the same or less and get paid more, you f'in idiots

 

[wms]

Mesaba and Comair are in danger of going out of existence. There's a difference between trying to survive BK and caving to the most profitable airline in the industry. But hey, the schedulers are polite!

 

[79%N1]

And their rates are already much higher than SKYW's. So, and stay with me here, even after their cuts, their rates are still higher than yours.

 

[purduej]

I feel I should mention that as a newhire as skyw I'm pulling in more money here than I was at Trans States on less flying (75hrs vs 90hrs), and the atmosphere among the crews is WAY better. That being said, the pay offer stunk. Voted it down.

 

[sweptback]

You don't have separate rates. You have a pay override for the 700/900. There is a difference.

 

[capt. megadeth]

What will the tools on FI.com have to bitch about now????

Maybe that 975 morons sold about 600 Bro pilots down the river.

 

[HelloNewman]

Without union protection who is going to enforce those rates?

Unions aren't always good protectors either. Look at Mesa they won a grievance, the company will not pay and there are no consequences as of yet. The grievance has being going on for over3 years for christ's sake. What about all the guys that left when/if the award finally gets paid out. If someone wins a grievance and the company doesn't pay then there should have already been consequences. The fact that it takes a federal judge to order it is a freaking joke. Maybe by the time our new agreement becomes amendable Mesa will finally pay it out. The problem is most of the Mesa pilots will probably be gone by then so the company wins anyway.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

That vote was symbolant of it's pilot group. I think someone mentioned it but if they didn't. The RJ boys sold out the EMB120 pilots. For the record you still have no spine and it's not a separate rate. It's an override and a very, very small one at that. Wake up...

 

[Headfake14]

So why the override all of a sudden? Is this JAs way of trying to keep ALPA off property? I think in the end it'll help get 'em over there. The vote didn't appear to be overwhelming...so there are a greater # cranky pilots now than there were before. I wonder when the stuff will start hitting the fan.

 

[jayme]

That vote was symbolant of it's pilot group. I think someone mentioned it but if they didn't. The RJ boys sold out the EMB120 pilots. For the record you still have no spine and it's not a separate rate. It's an override and a very, very small one at that. Wake up...

I voted "yes", and I'm just a sorry brasilia pilot. Is your mind blown?

I'm taking Nov and Dec off to be with my new baby, but I was on pace to make 70K (including money made off our voluntary stock purchase program, but not including the company's contributions to my 401k account). 70K to fly a 30 pax turboprop is just fine. I'm on reserve and rarely get called, so I work on some days off at time and a half. I typically fly 12 days a month.

By voting in an override for the bigger jets, we can start contract negotiations from a MUCH stronger position once ALPA is voted in.

I understand why there are SkyWest haters out there. It is shamefull that some of our pilots don't mind flying the bigger jets for the 50 rate. But there is nothing to see here. The jet pilots didn't sell out their brothers. Over 40% of the voters turned down the proposal, but only 25% of our pilots fly the brasilia.

 

[SkyNation]

You don't have separate rates. You have a pay override for the 700/900. There is a difference.

True.

and with those rates, we will be more competitive in securing new opportunities with our current/future major partners. our pilots will continue to take home more $ than our competitors, we will continue to solidify our financial position as a company, and we will continually look forward for ways to strengthen our position in the market. by doing so, we provide the best opportunities for our folks, whether they are here for the long haul or just until they move on.

airlines/pilot groups that cling to antiquated notions, mob mentality and anit-market structures will continue to stagnate, shrink, or cease to exist.

haters-UNITE!!! flame on!!!! bad spellers of the world-UNTIE!!!!

 

[Spicepilots]

Not to mention the fact that 30% of the pilots didn't even bother to vote. Whether they thought it wasn't worth their time, or that it was a forgone conclusion, who knows... to me it says that 30% don't really care that much.

 

[Steveair]

Do you have any fukcing clue how ignorant you are?
You've got senior FO's at Horizon that make more than SkyWest captains.
You will work several more days in any given time period to come close to what Horizon makes.

Seen what Express Jet makes?

Have you compared the 900 rates to Mesa's 900 rates.

You're down there with Mesa, GoJet's, and other bottom feeders.

Grow a pair. Find some pride.

Horizon FO's should be making more since there with the company for 8 years before they upgrade. SkyWest gets 12-18 days off per month.

Express Jet, according to airlinepilot central makes around the same and doesn't get performance rewards.... not to mention the worst domiciles ever.

The 900 rate does suck but there's no one that has a good rate on them.

What else ya got?

PS = Real mature post you put there. What are you, 18?