Not looking good at FLYi

[MickeySlapnutz]

Why is it so hard to accept the idea that more than one person see's FLYi as the sinking ship that it is?

 

[House_X]

I have no idea who "Etoper" is nor do I work for United. What difference would it make anyway? No matter who I work for or what message board I may or may not add my 2 cents on, would not change the fact that FLYi puts out the most foolish press releases in the industry.

Yeah...Yeah...Yeah.......Etoper...

I'll agree with you on the FLYi press releases...I'm embarassed by them....

Your obsession with the demise of FLYi/ACA exhibits Etoper "like behavior"...that's why we are calling you Etoper...

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

Yeah...Yeah...Yeah.......Etoper...

I'll agree with you on the FLYi press releases...I'm embarassed by them....

Your obsession with the demise of FLYi/ACA exhibits Etoper "like behavior"...that's why we are calling you Etoper...

I dont know the guy/gal nor do I care who it is or what the motivation is for etoper. It just is rather handy for some of you to think that its the same person...cause heaven forbid anyone else see's it the same way. Most guys on this board can see the silly press statements for what they are.....the problem is when one starts to believe the spin, or worse, defend it. However, is there really anyone who does not think that the guys running the show at FLYi are the blind leading the blind willing to follow?

 

[AZ Typed]

Roundtrip on Indy LAS-DTW 4 day notice for $299 each way. Flights were full and sold out all the digEplayers (which are pretty cool).

FAs talk too much on the Bus, though. People were happy, service was great, flights arrived on time.

A long way from UAL - that's for sure.

 

[JetFumes]

mickey slapnutz......that says it all

 

[ERJJeff]

How did Mesa even come up

 

[say again]

How did Mesa even come up

Good question. They always seem to come up when people argue. Must be an ice breaker.

 

[Flooder305]

Speaking of outsourcing, I hear that FlyI's Airbus are being operated for them by RyanAir yes? How is that working? Is it a percentage of profit? Or a fee per departure like ACA used to be or what?

 

[say again]

Speaking of outsourcing, I hear that FlyI's Airbus are being operated for them by RyanAir yes? How is that working? Is it a percentage of profit? Or a fee per departure like ACA used to be or what?

This is news to me. Who did you hear this info from?

 

[Fromage]

The high failure rate of FlyI pilots in Airbus training has led them to outsource the flying to RyanAir. I believe that it is a fee-for departure. RyanAir has also taken all of the good looking flight attendants and left the ugly ones to crew the CRJ's.

 

[Flooder305]

Not only I guess the high failure rate, but the ones who did get their ticket, would then jump ship to JetBlue or greener pastures....... Kind of a wierd twist of fate, that now FlyI is paying a fee-per-departure...

 

[Fromage]

Yes, perhaps soon the CRJ's will be contracted out to another carrier as Independence Express?

 

[say again]

Not only I guess the high failure rate, but the ones who did get their ticket, would then jump ship to JetBlue or greener pastures....... Kind of a wierd twist of fate, that now FlyI is paying a fee-per-departure...

Certaintly can't blame them. I wonder why the high fail rate? Then again, I've flown with some of the pilots, and......

 

[Fromage]

Well, there is a reason that their senior pilots were never hired by larger airlines, no?

 

[Rick James]

Fromage,
Dont you have some surrendering to do somewhere frenchie?

 

[Wasted]

Well, there is a reason that their senior pilots were never hired by larger airlines, no?

I've been reading some of your writings from this last day or two, and I have to ask you something. What are you, some punk fifteen year old high school kid?

 

[Fromage]

No, I'm a FlyI pilot out buzzing around MCO at 200 feet, 'tard!

 

[Wasted]

You don't have a clue, do you? I know the person who did that, and he certainly wasn't a fifteen year old punk like you.

 

[shamrock]

The high failure rate of FlyI pilots in Airbus training has led them to outsource the flying to RyanAir.

Had an ex-Indy guy on the JS last week and he was telling us that the Indy training guys are now telling Airbus how training should be done on the 319. Apparently Airbus hasn't been doing it correctly, but it wasn't discovered until Indy started getting the 319. Acccording to Mr. Jumpseater, the Indy Airbus training guys are the same people that made the CRJ training so enjoyable a few years back at ACA.

Don't know if any of this is correct, but then again I heard it from a jumpseater, so it must be true.

 

[AZ Typed]

Speaking of outsourcing, I hear that FlyI's Airbus are being operated for them by RyanAir yes? How is that working? Is it a percentage of profit? Or a fee per departure like ACA used to be or what?

Cheeze 'N Rice

It is FLYi seniority list pilots flying the Big Blue Bus. And yes, it is filled with many of the Yahoos who built the RJ program. And yes they typically think that they know how to do it better and write screwed up procedures as such. The RJ is finally getting straightened out thanks to the 328 guys cluing the company in. Oh yeah - and also the fact that it was costing too much $$$ to design stupid useless procedures. Thankfully FLYi has great pilots who can see through the BS procedures the training department writes. Where did this "fee for departure" stuff come in? Flyi makes its own cash from its own marketing efforts, period. Their is no "fee for departure" of any sort. As for the 200 foot ordeal - what do you want when you have an upgrade system based on seniority only. Every airline has goofs in both seats who don't belong there - but simply can "hold" it due to their seniority (and no I don't have a better system for such a large group). Go Flyi!