Sleepyhead
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Lear70 said:You can either take what the judge has handed down or you can exercise your right to immediate self help and shut the airline down, playing a very dangerous bluff with management that they'll come back and give you more (incidentally, this tactic has shut down EVERY AIRLINE THAT HAS TRIED IT).
B6Driver said:Eastern Airlines?
There will be several hearings between the judge and management's lawyers during the 51 day period, but the judge will not make any decisions about voiding contracts or imposing terms until 44-51 days after the 1113(c) filing. Until then, the unions have the ability to negotiate with management in an attempt to come to some sort of agreement.Sleepyhead said:just wondering where you got the "51 days" from?
My company is in BK and the ALPA Nation rep told us we have 10 days berfore the hearing once they file an 1113C and the clock starts ticking the minute they file and includes weekends.
Lear70 said:One last time: the BOTTOM LINE is that the 1113(c) filing sets a HARD DEADLINE of 51 days to NEGOTIATE (which is what's going on at Hawaiian and what NWA will start doing now). The pilots (and other labor) are on the losing side of this bargaining table because, if they cannot come to an agreement, the JUDGE imposes new contract limitations OR throws the contract out altogether and comes up with his own idea of fair compensation.
B6Driver said:Eastern Airlines?
Sleepyhead said:just wondering where you got the "51 days" from?
My company is in BK and the ALPA Nation rep told us we have 10 days berfore the hearing once they file an 1113C and the clock starts ticking the minute they file and includes weekends.
I should have been more specific. Every airline that I can think of (majors included) where employees have walked off the job and operations ceased rather than continue to work through negotiations has closed up shop permanently. This scenario at the end of a 1113(c) filing wouldn't be any different.Ty Webb said:I don't recall any major airlines suffering this fate, not in my lifetime . . . . How about naming those airlines, and the source for that information.