Non-rev and commuting just got harder

[Rekks Inbound]

YES! Hijacked my first thread!

Does anyone think I should look out for a roundhouse kick to the head for this?

Peace.

Rekks

 

[Rekks Inbound]

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[COOPERVANE]

Fumble....beep, OH sorry! fumble, fumble, beep. What my belt? fumble, fumble, beep..... keys? fumble, fumble laptop? Oh I'm sorry, I left it in my bag! NRSA card? sorry, in my bag! Beep, Fumble fumble, cell phone. Repeat

No I won't be taking off my shoes Guess I'm in need of an additional search

 

[CFI2766]

(Posted this on the other thread, but it's the same idea...)

This all sounds well and good, the CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, but it's going to bite us: Instead of changing the rule, or somehow coming up with a compromise, we as crewmembers will simply be required to show up even earlier. Then, when we are late because of the TSA, we will be reminded that we have been required to show up earlier, on our own UNPAID time.

Think about it: how is showing up late going to sway the thinking of management? What's the easiest, cheapest solution? Make the flight crew culpable for the time they spend in line waiting on the TSA morons.

It will simply be a matter of time until we get a new bulletin dictating how far in advance we must show up to deadhead.

 

[IamHYPOXIC2]

It seems as though TSA wants to create havoc in the system once again. All I know is that once crews start missing flights home because of this directive, things are going to get really ugly. Now, if you'll excuse me I am feeling lightheaded so I must lie down.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

(Posted this on the other thread, but it's the same idea...)

This all sounds well and good, the CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, but it's going to bite us: Instead of changing the rule, or somehow coming up with a compromise, we as crewmembers will simply be required to show up even earlier. Then, when we are late because of the TSA, we will be reminded that we have been required to show up earlier, on our own UNPAID time.

Think about it: how is showing up late going to sway the thinking of management? What's the easiest, cheapest solution? Make the flight crew culpable for the time they spend in line waiting on the TSA morons.

It will simply be a matter of time until we get a new bulletin dictating how far in advance we must show up to deadhead.

The company (at least at AWAC) cannot require you to report earlier for a deadhead without negotiating a new side letter to our contract increasing the time required, since this is outlined in our current CBA. Yet another good reason to have a legal, union contract. Peace. Rekks

 

[Marsupial]

so has anybody actually gone through any of this yet...i.e. finish your trip and then try to commute home? did you go back through security or just go over to the gate - and did anyone at the gate make a big deal of it? just wondering what experiences anyone might have had dealing with this crap. thx.

 

[spacecadet1]

Jumpseated on United out of ORD today. Went thru the employee screening line which seemed longer since they must be making everyone get screened. Aside from the slightly longer employee line, not much different. United agent did the normal CASS check, nothing different.

 

[Marsupial]

but had u finished a trip there and they told you to go back out of the sterile area to get rescreened? commuting prior to my trip i always have to go through security anyhow. i am wondering about the end of the trip when already went through security at xyz airport, have now finished the trip and want to get on a flight 3 gates down.

 

[PCL_128]

Jumpseated twice on Delta today in plain clothes. Nothing different than before. No gate agent checked for a "stamped" gate pass, no extra TSA scrutiny, nothing. Everything seemed like business as usual.

 

[j41driver]

so has anybody actually gone through any of this yet...i.e. finish your trip and then try to commute home? did you go back through security or just go over to the gate - and did anyone at the gate make a big deal of it? just wondering what experiences anyone might have had dealing with this crap. thx.

Just commuted home. No different than before.

 

[lrn2fly]

Check the new ALPA notice. There was apparently a mis-interpretation. Nothing really changes fo rthe most part. Worst case scenario is when you become just a passenger ie no deadhead etc. We then can become seconadary gate screened. Never do we have to leave and come back through regular screening when already screened.

 

[j41driver]

Check the new ALPA notice.

Is it on the members-only side of the website? Can't seem to find it. Might be the fact that it's 3 am.....

 

[Nightrain_080]

sorry azz

Here is a tip for your commute. Call uhaul morons!!! this way you won't have to deal with the commute drama. Live in domicle and quit yer whining!!!

Hope to never fly with such a loser like newoman.

Sad that you sell out everyone for yourself. Selfish little one.

 

[Lear70]

Check the new ALPA notice. There was apparently a mis-interpretation. Nothing really changes fo rthe most part. Worst case scenario is when you become just a passenger ie no deadhead etc. We then can become seconadary gate screened. Never do we have to leave and come back through regular screening when already screened.

Sounds good.

In ATL it has been policy ever since I've been hired here that anyone parking in the employee lot then bypassing screening in order to travel on a pass must go back through security and be screened with their bags. There's signs all over the bus stops, in ops, on the entry to the elevator going up, and inside the elevator that tell you this.

This wasn't really news unless they started strictly enforcing it for commuters finishing a trip after bypassing at XYZ airport the morning of the last day.

Until they find a way to enforce it, I'd say business as usual.