No more cigarette lighters!!!!!

[FmrFreightDog]

As of February 15th, the TSA will no longer be allowing anybody to carry lighters, disposable or otherwise, through any security checkpoints. I'm wondering what kind of revolt this is going to cause among passengers, not to mention crew members who happen to smoke. Apparently the ban may be expanded to include matches, making the area inside security a de facto non-smoking area. By extension, that would make your 4 day trip a non-smoking trip. Yet another step in the wrong direction by the friendly, white-shirted high school dropouts at the TSA.

Here's a link to the article:
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/nation/10539621.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

 

[Stifler's Mom]

As if people are irritable enough traveling these days.

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

As of February 15th, the TSA will no longer be allowing anybody to carry lighters, disposable or otherwise, through any security checkpoints. I'm wondering what kind of revolt this is going to cause among passengers, not to mention crew members who happen to smoke. Apparently the ban may be expanded to include matches, making the area inside security a de facto non-smoking area. By extension, that would make your 4 day trip a non-smoking trip. Yet another step in the wrong direction by the friendly, white-shirted high school dropouts at the TSA.

Here's a link to the article:
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/nation/10539621.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Hey guy, go ahead and pull your head out of your extremities since you have no clue what you are talking about. There is a real issue with disposable lighters, especially when they are emptied being used as a component in homemade bombs. This is according to my wife, a TSA supervisor, who incidentally holds a 4 year degree. You can, however, carry Zippo style lighters.

 

[DrinkSweetTea]

Bring 5 or so in to your crew room before the deadline so you can have them after the fact. If you want to be a business man, then bring more then sell them to other smokers after the deadline.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Hey guy, go ahead and pull your head out of your extremities since you have no clue what you are talking about. There is a real issue with disposable lighters, especially when they are emptied being used as a component in homemade bombs. This is according to my wife, a TSA supervisor, who incidentally holds a 4 year degree. You can, however, carry Zippo style lighters.

And it's such a pressing, sensitive issue that the ban is going into effect on February 15th instead of immediately??? There's a real issue with about 300 different household items that can be used as a bomb. And, no... the ban will include Zippo style lighters as well.

By the way, keep your comments about my head and my extremities to yourself. A$$hole.

 

[JD2003]

Knuckleheads keep takin way my nasal hair clippers!

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

And it's such a pressing, sensitive issue that the ban is going into effect on February 15th instead of immediately??? There's a real issue with about 300 different household items that can be used as a bomb. And, no... the ban will include Zippo style lighters as well.

By the way, keep your comments about my head and my extremities to yourself. A$$hole.

Ill remember your comments when someone takes down your flight with a butane lighter or any of the other "300 different household items that can be used as a bomb." Be glad someone is there looking out for you and your flights.

 

[mach tuck]

I've always been against carrying lighters through security for obvious reasons. There will be an uproar among the passengers who don't know the new rule and have to leave their lighters behind. For the crewmembers, a great time to quit, or switch to the spittoon like I have.

mach

 

[Indypilot]

1. its easy to get around. Just carry the matches on your person, how many people (especially crewmembers) get pulled over these days. 2. stash a bunch in your flight bag at the hotel, put them in your jeps. 3. if in an airport smoking area, just as one of the 10,000 TSA agents on break to borrow one of theirs because there is no way in HE*! the TSA agents are giving up their lighters. Come on seriously, how can TSA agents be expected to give up their lighters, but all passengers and crewmembers, no matches, or lighters.

Hey government take you G#dD&*M nose out business that isn't yours.

A Holes

 

[stall022]

it's so amazing that the tsa would rather deal with the bs problems then deal with the real issues.. a steel pen or a can of akwanet hairspray( anyone every had a spudgun would know that one) can be just as dangerous as a stupid a@@ lighter although they were fun to throw against a concrete wall as a kid...how about dealing with the rampers and the gate agents that just freely walk in and out behind security or the budlight truck that freely drives around the ramp after being halfarse checked by some rentacop...Typical government tho to ignore the big problems by focusing on the little ones.. as for "watching out for our flights" just asmuch stuff gets past tsa now as it did pre-tsa it's just my tax dollars paying for it now... 9/11 will never happen for one reason and one reason only it's call a steel door and the fact that i'm not opening it plain and simple no matter what is happening in the back...

 

[crashpad]

Yeah bubba! You know the only thing the TSA is protecting is their 'careers'.

Just out of curiosity Vicks, how'd you and the Mrs. meet?
Was it before she worked for the TSA or did you meet on the job?

 

[((7))]

"Ill remember your comments when someone takes down your flight with a butane lighter or any of the other "300 different household items that can be used as a bomb." Be glad someone is there looking out for you and your flights."

This idiot has his nose so far up the TSA's butt all anyone can see is his heels. I nominate this idiot for the TSAAKA- Thousands Standing Around A** Kisser Award-. I'm glad your wife has a 4 year degree, I hope she continues her education. Maybe she could advance her worthless career with a advanced degree such as a Masters in Mag. Wanding French Poodles. Please go back to your wife and have her lube up the old wand for your next treatment, you sure need to keep those lip smackers in proper shape or if things get boring, have her dress up in her Gestapo uniform and ask her for a cavity search. She might recommend for one of the top jobs.

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

Yeah bubba! You know the only thing the TSA is protecting is their 'careers'.

Just out of curiosity Vicks, how'd you and the Mrs. meet?
Was it before she worked for the TSA or did you meet on the job?

We met in college. I didn't know there were this many TSA haters. You know what they say, don't hate the playa, hate the game.

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

"Ill remember your comments when someone takes down your flight with a butane lighter or any of the other "300 different household items that can be used as a bomb." Be glad someone is there looking out for you and your flights."

This idiot has his nose so far up the TSA's butt all anyone can see is his heels. I nominate this idiot for the TSAAKA- Thousands Standing Around A** Kisser Award-. I'm glad your wife has a 4 year degree, I hope she continues her education. Maybe she could advance her worthless career with a advanced degree such as a Masters in Mag. Wanding French Poodles. Please go back to your wife and have her lube up the old wand for your next treatment, you sure need to keep those lip smackers in proper shape or if things get boring, have her dress up in her Gestapo uniform and ask her for a cavity search. She might recommend for one of the top jobs.

Ok Mr. 39.42 TT, with all of your massive aviation experience, how would you run things if given the opportunity?

 

[T-handle]

This no more lighters through security hoopla is like when California initially banned smoking in all public buildings (including bars and clubs). Everyone freaked out and thought it was going to put bars and clubs out of business...... What happened? nothing changed. The air got a little cleaner and now people go home not smelling like sh!t.

So it's just initial reaction.

 

[CRJDog]

"Ill remember your comments when someone takes down your flight with a butane lighter or any of the other "300 different household items that can be used as a bomb." Be glad someone is there looking out for you and your flights."

This idiot has his nose so far up the TSA's butt all anyone can see is his heels. I nominate this idiot for the TSAAKA- Thousands Standing Around A** Kisser Award-. I'm glad your wife has a 4 year degree, I hope she continues her education. Maybe she could advance her worthless career with a advanced degree such as a Masters in Mag. Wanding French Poodles. Please go back to your wife and have her lube up the old wand for your next treatment, you sure need to keep those lip smackers in proper shape or if things get boring, have her dress up in her Gestapo uniform and ask her for a cavity search. She might recommend for one of the top jobs.

Amen !!

Vicks, ask your dumb@ss wife on why did the idiots at TSA are thinking on making this rule over 3 years after 9/11. She has a 4 year degree and the only job she could get is a TSA bag checker? Pretty sad.

SOON TO COME!

TSA MANDATES ALL AIRCRAFT DOORS TO BE LOCKED AND ALL TRAVELERS MUST FLY NAKED AND CARRY NOTHING.

 

[blzr]

I'm wondering when the new TSA memo will come out stating that EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY those darn flight crews, have to fly NEKKED.

They haven't figured out yet that the crew could fly nekked and still mess up every one's day if they wanted to anyway. Why would they want to use their toe nail clippers for that?

 

[JD2003]

Theory:

TSA...(T)obacco...(S)mokers....(A)ssociation.

Thats it!...they want the lighters!!

 

[propjockey]

TSA makes us "safer?" [sarcastic laughter]

Every time I hear someone spout the line that the TSA makes us "safer" I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry, throw up, or just shake my head in despair that someone could be brainwashed like that. The TSA are merely busily engaged in creating a pressing need for themselves to keep the sheep-like travelling public from ever waking up from their dream.

I, for one, resent being forced to participate in the charade. (Please don't anyone say "If you don't like it then quit.") No change for the better ever came from people simply rolling over and accepting whatever @#$% washes over them. I'm only one person, but for all the good it will do I have voiced my opinions to my congressmen. Maybe if everyone does the same, some good will come of it.

I just finished reading George Orwell's 1984 for the first time last year. (We didn't read it in any of my English classes, but I had always wanted to). Those of you still capable of independent thought (which seems to be the majority of the people on this board) ought to read it, or read it again.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

 

[cathal]

Kodiak, Copenhagen, even Apple Skoal!

 

[dispatchguy]

And I notice that the person who married the TSA "person" is a crew scheduler, and about the only time he approaches a large-type aircraft is in the back only, or on MSFS.

Deal with those idiots daily, like a crewmember does, and the different levels of enforcement that you see flying around the NAS on a daily basis; and every time you see more than 2 TSA agents huddled on break; your blood just boils.....

TSA = Thousands Standing Around
TSA = They Smell Alcohol
TSA = They Suck A$$

Ever since the TSA agency was announced shortly after 9/11, the ONLY improvement in aviation security has been that you no longer have Vladimir, Kama Sutra, or any other green card holder type manning the checkpoints; like you did at ORD - the Argenbright jerk-offs at ORD just walked off the flight from Warsaw Poland the day before...

 

[((7))]

Quick Fix for Mr Dumb**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**- Require "all" TSA idiots to pass a 3rd grade comprehensive test. After this monumental task there will be approximatly 25% left. Unfortunatly your weak ass old lady will be looking for a job. Look at the bright side, your daily ass wiping with the Mag. wand will cease unless she buys her own for your special treatments.

 

[OtterFO]

You can stop at any news stand or gift shop on the secure side of an airport and purchase a replacement lighter.....

TSA= Trillions Spent Annually

 

[bobbyice]

Better late than never. The real problem is the Federal government being in charge of security. Why the change? Please tell me one banned item that the hijackers took aboard those airplanes on 9-11...

 

[dispatchguy]

Please tell me one banned item that the hijackers took aboard those airplanes on 9-11...

Not one.... box cutters and blades up to 4 inches in length were okie-dokie...

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm wondering when the new TSA memo will come out stating that EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY those darn flight crews, have to fly NEKKED.

They haven't figured out yet that the crew could fly nekked and still mess up every one's day if they wanted to anyway. Why would they want to use their toe nail clippers for that?

I think SWA is up to speed on this one. They might might even have an update to the FOM.

GOD, I crack myself up sometimes!

 

[ultrarunner]

Not one.... box cutters and blades up to 4 inches in length were okie-dokie...

And while you're at it, show me the evidence that the flight deck door's were breached.....

you can't.....

someone came out!

 

[bobbyice]

Not one.... box cutters and blades up to 4 inches in length were okie-dokie...

My point exactly. If TSA were around on 9-11, with the same rules in place back then, absolutely nothing would have been different (except that the govt. would have been blamed for security instead of the airlines). If you want to f**k something up, let the govt. do it!

 

[CRJDog]

I guess I will have to apply for the Federal Flight Deck Lighter Officer permit.

Can't wait until they try to confiscate a lighter from a smoker FFDO.

Freakin idiots!!

 

[ultrarunner]

I guess I will have to apply for the Federal Flight Deck Lighter Officer permit.

Can't wait until they try to confiscate a lighter from a smoker FFDO.

Freakin idiots!!

that's a classic right there. it would be a shame to not let the press know the first time this happens.

BTW, my mag light was confiscated this past week by a TSA puke. TSA PUKE...


repeat after me....TSA PUKE...Burn in fuking hell...TSA PUKE....TSA PUKE...

there, I feel better now.

prly go to the penalty box for that one, but it's freaking woth it..TSA PUKE.