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ZERT Wilson CQB User
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Okay. I have read and re-read the IBB TA. I have read and re-read the LOA. I have read and re-read the many e-mails from NJI management and RTS. And I have talked with many of our crewmembers and even a few NJA crews. Here are my conclusions:
1. The eventual integration of NJA and NJI seniority lists is now all but a foregone conclusion. 750 is correct that the LOA was written to protect NJI pilots but it also buys RTS time to see where the political and economic winds are blowing before he makes an irrevocable decision. I have posted many times that I believe it will be late '09 or early '10 before this issue is definitively settled and I stand by that prediction.
2. The LOA does a pretty decent job of protecting NJI pilots. NJI F/O's hired prior to the 2005 CBA will make PIC as they were promised. The junior guys hired since the CBA won't do as well and I feel for them but they knew (or should have known) about the crossover agreement when they were hired and that this was a possibility and made their decision accordingly. Date of hire is the only fair way to integrate since the primary single-carrier argument has always been that we work for the same company. Fortunately, the 1108 leadership and the vast majority of 1108 pilots I have talked to agree.
3. I think the company is being foolish by waiting until next November to fill new NJI F/O slots with 1108 transfers. If this is going to happen anyway, let's get on with it starting January 1. NJI will hire 15 or so "off the street" F/O's next year. How many do you think will stick around long-term once they get on the line and discover they will NEVER make PIC in a Gulfstream? Happy trails to a half million in training dollars.
4. RTS has re-stated that, no matter the outcome of the single-carrier issue, NJI will remain a separate operation with its own scheduling, dispatch, uniforms, etc. The pilot group may be represented by the same union and CBA as NJA but NJI will maintain a separate identity. I'm 50-50 on whether this will be the case but I hope so. The idea of CMH controlling the operation again will send more pilots packing than the idea of joining a union, yours truly included.
As to a few points raise earlier, as I understand it, right to work laws can't influence the outcome of a single-carrier petition but do prevent a person from being forced to join a union. Regardless, if the shop becomes unionized, an "administration fee" equal to dues can be collected from the employee for collective bargaining services.
Hog, we have been told that our President and the Bradley Boss had no idea this was coming and did not participate in the writing of the LOA. Based on an e-mail exchange I had, I believe that.
This is a long bumpy road and although I think I know where the map says we're going, I can't see around the next hill to know for sure.
Back to making the donuts.....
1. The eventual integration of NJA and NJI seniority lists is now all but a foregone conclusion. 750 is correct that the LOA was written to protect NJI pilots but it also buys RTS time to see where the political and economic winds are blowing before he makes an irrevocable decision. I have posted many times that I believe it will be late '09 or early '10 before this issue is definitively settled and I stand by that prediction.
2. The LOA does a pretty decent job of protecting NJI pilots. NJI F/O's hired prior to the 2005 CBA will make PIC as they were promised. The junior guys hired since the CBA won't do as well and I feel for them but they knew (or should have known) about the crossover agreement when they were hired and that this was a possibility and made their decision accordingly. Date of hire is the only fair way to integrate since the primary single-carrier argument has always been that we work for the same company. Fortunately, the 1108 leadership and the vast majority of 1108 pilots I have talked to agree.
3. I think the company is being foolish by waiting until next November to fill new NJI F/O slots with 1108 transfers. If this is going to happen anyway, let's get on with it starting January 1. NJI will hire 15 or so "off the street" F/O's next year. How many do you think will stick around long-term once they get on the line and discover they will NEVER make PIC in a Gulfstream? Happy trails to a half million in training dollars.
4. RTS has re-stated that, no matter the outcome of the single-carrier issue, NJI will remain a separate operation with its own scheduling, dispatch, uniforms, etc. The pilot group may be represented by the same union and CBA as NJA but NJI will maintain a separate identity. I'm 50-50 on whether this will be the case but I hope so. The idea of CMH controlling the operation again will send more pilots packing than the idea of joining a union, yours truly included.
As to a few points raise earlier, as I understand it, right to work laws can't influence the outcome of a single-carrier petition but do prevent a person from being forced to join a union. Regardless, if the shop becomes unionized, an "administration fee" equal to dues can be collected from the employee for collective bargaining services.
Hog, we have been told that our President and the Bradley Boss had no idea this was coming and did not participate in the writing of the LOA. Based on an e-mail exchange I had, I believe that.
This is a long bumpy road and although I think I know where the map says we're going, I can't see around the next hill to know for sure.
Back to making the donuts.....
