NJ Recalls

[jetlag7]

..... If you haven't found better in 5 years, would you agree that this is on of the better places to be employed? By all means negotiate what you're worth, but you being in strike mode after 48 hours is sad.

SG

Nothing sad about it at all....

I for one am delighted to see this level of resolve among our returning brothers and sisters.

 

[jrmyl]

62 more of you for November!!!!!!!

Actually 31. At least that is what my recall notice said.

 

[Dgpr]

62 more of you for November!!!!!!!

And I'm one of them. It couldn't come at a better time for me.
I know the job is difficult and different now, but the last 5 years have been difficult without the Netjets job, so I'm trading one type of difficult for another, just taking about a $20K / yr raise to do so.

 

[imacdog]

Congrats guys and welcome back (if you're accepting).

 

[acaTerry]

Actually 31. At least that is what my recall notice said.

An unnamed management type at recurrent said 62...

 

[Rubber Ducky]

62 new notices sent with the intent to have a class of 31.

Sidebar... "Intent", according to the letter, transcripts, bargaining notes, bargaining thoughts, non-bargaining thoughts, dreams, day dreams, other dreams, dreams of a management position and/or promise of a management position... In no particular order but unfortunately, not in the best interest of the membership.

 

[johnsonrod]

Any truth to previous rumor that some returning furloughees would be placed in the CL350? Does not sound right but you never know these days... I would expect placement in the Phenom, XL and Encore - right?

 

[Willy21]

It wouldn't surprise me to see recalls go into the CL350. We have already seen a few go to the the 800/900xp and Falcon. Those are seats I'm sure a few senior XL and Encore SICs would have put a bid in for.

 

[BentOver]

It wouldn't surprise me to see recalls go into the CL350. We have already seen a few go to the the 800/900xp and Falcon. Those are seats I'm sure a few senior XL and Encore SICs would have put a bid in for.

Them da breaks

 

[gearjockey]

I was curious if anyone is returning back to Netjets from their legacy or Major/LCC? Not too long ago, some guys were saying that Netjets was a better career option. I don't know any Netjets pilots so excuse my lack of personal knowledge.

 

[fly4funcrj]

I don't know of any coming from the majors. Spoke to a JB pilot the other day who had a friend get the recall notice. Said he is having to think really hard about coming back to NJ.

 

[flagshipper]

Nobody is leaving a major to come back to NJ. In fact I don't know anyone who has left JB, Spirit, Frontier, and even the few Allegiant guys are staying put. With the 10 year FO pay cap the long term money would be better at any of the LCCs and of course the Majors.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

62 more of you for November!!!!!!!

Anyone know what hire date that corresponds to? Just curious. (I'm not coming back, but a few of my classmates may)

 

[Gsxrguy750]

Anyone know what hire date that corresponds to? Just curious. (I'm not coming back, but a few of my classmates may)

3/4 the way thru the 5-12-08 class.

 

[ghostrider64]

A reasonable post. However, my NJI job was terrific. And the Union forced us to merge. Force seems to be a large component of union activities, force and intimidation. Including sometimes on message boards.

And without said union you would be...

1) paying an "undisclosed but suggested $3000/yr for medical insurance.

2) giving up any possibility of holding the company accountable for delays in airlines getting you home, even though" they could have sent you home earlier.

3) not received any recovery time for said after midnight return to your base, unless you got home after 1800 on your first off day.

4) seen your sick day accrual cut in half, to 6 days per year instead of the 12 you enjoy now.

5) seen yourselves FORCED onto the 18 day schedule without any regard to your individual desires.


But all you see is the big bad union. Funny I'm seeing a great scene with Jack Nicholson, maybe you should just say "thank you" and move along.

 

[Downwind]

Just the opposite. We're seeing line pilots of relatively decent seniority leaving the company for all kinds of airlines including Spirit and (gulp) Allegiant.

The numbers that we were given last week don't support that statement. Less than a third of those that have left this year went to a 121 and all of those were SIC's. Over half were LOA exhaustion or retirements, and unfortunately, a few deaths. Only a handful were unaccounted for. The rest may have been terminations but that wasn't disclosed.

These were the numbers presented to us.

 

[fischman]

Who presented those numbers?

 

[gunfyter]

One Falcon IP went to Delta.

I think a couple of Gulfstream PICs have gone somewhere ... Corporate gigs i think

 

[gutshotdraw]

I think a couple of Gulfstream PICs have gone somewhere ... Corporate gigs i think

One is in HK, another elsewhere in Asia, two left for Gulfstream's in-house Flight Department, and 6 others I know of retired. All senior PIC's. That's over the past 18 months. At least 3 more that I know say they are retiring soon. A couple of SIC's in the fleet have also left this year. No GLC furloughed pilot that I know of has accepted recall.

Meanwhile, at least a dozen pilots mentioned on the message board, by name, have left for AA, Delta, Spirit, JetBlue, and yes, Allegiant over the same time frame (I'm sure there are many more). Attrition this year is roughly double that of last year although many are retirements and, sadly, at least three untimely passings.

 

[T-1GUY]

Three have left for Southwest