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Porch said:
LoL! Are you kidding? That's a good one, every once in a while I get a chuckle off this board. Thnx!
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It actually is true - no newspapers are to be read in the cockpit, regardless of whether or not passengers are onboard or not.

Eyes forward and monitor fuel every 30 minutes...
 
i guess they should have got their stuff in instead of bitchin about the low pay back in '03.....lol

i feel bad for new hires right now....probly gonna be 7+ years for an upgrade. But at least the pay is better.
 
So much goes on behind the Flight Deck door in the 121 world... Ipods, Laptops, books, newspapers, bleh bleh bleh
 
brokeflyer,

i know you fly the space shuttle and everything but from one nja guy to another maybe a little modesty is in order. nja's a great company with a great reputation let's try to keep it that way.
 
I agree with brokeflyer. The stats I saw at recurrent last month shows growth but the slow down is sim slots and airplanes that have not been built yet. Dont forget, NJA is building a NJA campus at CMH. It will be the biggest flightsafty facility in the world. Dont let the hiring slow down fool you! I was told up to 400 pilots for next year!
However, they said they will interview in august then interview from September on for the 09 year.













brokeflyer said:
lol thats funny...

to educate you, it is because we can't have guys sitting around for 5 months waiting on a sim. More sims = more hiriing.

we have planes sitting with no crews because they can't get them trained fast enough.
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OK here's the real scoop. Overheard it in CMH when I was walking down the hall.
DayJet is planning a massive comeback and we need to be lean and mean to keep up.
 
turboshark said:
I agree with brokeflyer. The stats I saw at recurrent last month shows growth but the slow down is sim slots and airplanes that have not been built yet. Dont forget, NJA is building a NJA campus at CMH. It will be the biggest flightsafty facility in the world. Dont let the hiring slow down fool you! I was told up to 400 pilots for next year!
However, they said they will interview in august then interview from September on for the 09 year.
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This campus will house and IMMEDIATE 25 sims expandable to ???

I believe that it's existence is KEY to rapid growth beyond 3,000 NJA pilots. JMHO.

What that means to me is that if you want to work for NJA, sure... hiring will continue over the next 3-4 years at a slow pace. But after that center is built, growth will be much quicker.
 
Ultra Grump said:
Where are we going to get 25 sims?
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Think back to "Field of Dreams":

"Build it and they will come."

I think you can apply that to the campus at CMH. If NJA builds it, the sims will come along in due course. I'd bet that the sim builders are salivating at the thought of 25 new sims.
 
Why does it have to be CMH? Sigh. :)
 
Guitar Guy said:
Think back to "Field of Dreams":

"Build it and they will come."

I think you can apply that to the campus at CMH. If NJA builds it, the sims will come along in due course. I'd bet that the sim builders are salivating at the thought of 25 new sims.
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Yeah, because it's so quick and easy to build and certify 25 new sims.
 
Must be rough being omnipotent. Sad.
 
Ultra Grump said:
Yeah, because it's so quick and easy to build and certify 25 new sims.
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If someone (say FlightSafety and NetJets) want 25 new sims, don't you think the sim builders are interested in doing business? On top of that, new sims have to be built when new models are introduced and when in-production aircraft fleets grow. FSI-CMH is getting a new Encore+ sim that's slated to be in use by July 2009.
 
Guitar Guy said:
If someone (say FlightSafety and NetJets) want 25 new sims, don't you think the sim builders are interested in doing business? On top of that, new sims have to be built when new models are introduced and when in-production aircraft fleets grow. FSI-CMH is getting a new Encore+ sim that's slated to be in use by July 2009.
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I can't imagine all the work it takes to build one of those things. When you build in the fact that FAA probably needs to bless a couple hundred times along the way....the lead time really adds up.
 
It takes MONTHS sometimes to certify a single sim. Not all of them are built the same. Some of them have visual problems, some of them have hydraulic/motion problems, etc. Having said that, not all of them have to be perfect. The feds will bless the particular sim "with the understanding these 30 or so items will be fixed in 6 months" or something along those lines. It may not be an airplane, but the feds sure want it to be! I've been through two sim certs so far.
 
Guitar Guy said:
If someone (say FlightSafety and NetJets) want 25 new sims, don't you think the sim builders are interested in doing business? On top of that, new sims have to be built when new models are introduced and when in-production aircraft fleets grow. FSI-CMH is getting a new Encore+ sim that's slated to be in use by July 2009.
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That's my point. It's taking them over a year to build and certify that one sim. How much time do you think it's going to take to build 25? It's also not simply a matter of moving sims from other FSIs, because there is not enough sim time available as it is, hence the need for our own facility.
 
You must have a hard time finding hats for that huge head of yours.

I am so happy that I am not you.
 
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New aircraft simulators take much longer to construct and certify than copies of existing simulators. Since most of the sims at the new CMH center will be duplicates of existing sims, the bulk of the programming on the flight control fidelity and visual presentations is already complete. Many of the newer simulators are also electrically actuated, not hydraulic. Better fidelity and much lower maintenance. I don't think they'll have too much trouble getting the majority of the simulators built, installed, and certified in a timely fashion.
 
Ultra Grump said:
That's my point. It's taking them over a year to build and certify that one sim. How much time do you think it's going to take to build 25? It's also not simply a matter of moving sims from other FSIs, because there is not enough sim time available as it is, hence the need for our own facility.
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Yep, they aren't going to move sims, they are going to build new ones. It wouldn't make sense to move them. As for the amount of time it will take to do that, money and experience can shorten those times, especially if they are building copies of the new crop of electric sims.
 
I sure hope they replace that XL sim. That thing is dangerous.
 
Hi, guys! :) It sounds like progress is marching on. Between IBB, starting NJASAP, and voting for independence there's been a lot to keep up with and time flew by. This fall you'll have elections for the new leadership and then the busy season will be here. That's not even counting family activities so I think that waiting for the first new sim will go quickly, too.
 

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