new low for pinnacle

[Dangerkitty]

The majors do it too.

When I was a newhire at AA most newhires had to share a room. I lucked out though a had a room to myself. Sometimes being the most junior guy in class has its priviledges!!

 

[blackbox]

New hires at pinnacle are now expected to share a room, thats not share a suite is share a two bed hotel room. And the best part is they are not telling people this until they go to check in at the hotel. I wonder why? You people need to stand up for yourselves over there how much lower can the lifestyle be dragged down before 19 year old flight insturctors will quit accepting jobs. Before long PNCL pilots will be sharing a room on the RON and sharing a bed in training, but hey its not so bad it is a king size bed!

YOu're an idiot. like bouttime said, get off your high horse. Dont think Pinnacle is the one and only regional that is double occupancy. Its more the norm, than the exception.

At skywest, they put you up at the candlewood suites, and some have to share a 1 bedroom "suite" with a pull-out sofa bed!

You people need to stand up for yourselves over there how much lower can the lifestyle be dragged down before 19 year old flight insturctors will quit accepting jobs.

Stand up for ourselves??? 10 years ago, you had to pay 10K for training. (again, it was almost the norm back then. I think Comair was the same way). then they went to no pay during training, but they didnt pay you either. Then recently they started paying $200 a week. Not a lot, but its something. Now they pay the 200 a week and put you up in a hotel, with a 1000 dollar signing bonus when you pass your checkride. And currently we are in Contract Negotiations, and 1 thing they want to do is make a new hire an employee from Day 1. Hotel and guarentee from the start. So before you go posting nonsense, get the info first.

I think you're the 19 yearold CFI that got turned down from pinnacle. So you come onto this messageboard to make yourself feel better by posting the most ridiculous thing about 9E, hoping you get a "yeah, pinnacle sucks" support group behind, only to get people replying to you about how much you have it wrong.

SO the next time you go look in the mirror, think damn i got turned down from a subpar regional that is despartely in need of F/Os.

 

[doug_or]

PDT is double occupancy for ground school as well. Single once sim starts. Garuntee with half per diem (not sure where they came up with that) for all of training.

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

Garuntee with half per diem (not sure where they came up with that) for all of training.

That's 'cause you're supposed to share the Doritos and Mountain Dew with your roomate!!

 

[UZAInstructor]

For anyone who says it's "not bad, it's only 5-6 weeks of your life" etc............we're not (supposed to be) kids or in college anymore. We're adults and this is supposed to be a professional field. Do you think Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Duke Power (I'm just randomly picking companies here), basically any company, ask their employees to share a room when they send them for a seminar somewhere? And this includes brand new, college grad, 22 yr old employees.

Yes, the military has a bunch of guys in the same barracks, I know, I was in the Navy for 4 years, and it sucks. But, this isn't the military people, so that's not a valid excuse.

I don't care what any of you say about "getting off my high horse", it's insulting to be asked to share a room as an adult, like I'm back in the college dorms my freshman year. I'd even compare it to being asked to sit at the kid's table for Thanksgiving dinner.

Maybe it's cause I'm 30 now, and I've had some time to act and be treated like an adult, and to go back to less is regressive.

 

[FCPhotography]

I have been at Pinnacle for 9 months.

My wife and I were driving down the road and we saw this crew picking up a dead deer. I am starting to wonder.

 

[Diesel]

nice first they have pft.

now they have PFR. Pay for Room.

 

[Cokie907]

Am I detecting FREEEE food? Which base was this?

 

[ReverseSensing]

Horizon is double occupancy during ground school (free waffles!), single during sim, and single thereafter during recurrent. Pay starts day one, (16 hours week at 1st year pay [$28.52/hr]; no per diem in ground school, but per diem during sim. There is a "training reimbursement agreement" at Horizon ($5,500 w/ 24 month commitment for the 200 and 400; $8,000 w/ 36 month commitment for the RJ).

I was initially disappointed to have to share a room. But it worked out fine. Four weeks in a really small room with nothing but a micro and refrig isn't a vacation by any means, but having a kind of built-in study partner is a plus.

To UZAInstructor: I got you beat by a decade, so I think you're making too much of the age issue. But stick to your guns and march into the CP's office the first day of training and tell him/her that having to share a room is beneath your dignity. Better yet, ask during the interview what the training accomodations are. If they don't meet your standards, then, if offered a position, tell them you decline on the basis that you don't feel you are being treated like an adult.

 

[UZAInstructor]

To UZAInstructor: I got you beat by a decade, so I think you're making too much of the age issue. But stick to your guns and march into the CP's office the first day of training and tell him/her that having to share a room is beneath your dignity. Better yet, ask during the interview what the training accomodations are. If they don't meet your standards, then, if offered a position, tell them you decline on the basis that you don't feel you are being treated like an adult.

I don't have to do any of that, I took a job at an airline that has single occupancy during training, as well as full 72 hr guarantee and per diem. I'm not a prima donna by any means, like it would seem you are insinuating. I just feel it's another degradation of the profession and people are just saying "oh well, it's not that bad".

 

[blueridge71]

ASA paid for single occupancy rooms. They also paid 75 hour guarantee from day one.

Back in the day, ACA didn't pay or provide any type of room, you had to fend for yourself. Training pay there was $200 per week.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

My how the industry changes.

I didn't realize how many places share rooms now. In 4 airlines I have never run across one that shares rooms at anytime.

More proof of the reprogramming of the airline pilot. Seems from the comments that most of the young pilots see this as completly normal now.

Glad I never had to do it.....I fart way too much for a roomie!!!!

 

[HulkHogan]

Yup I must be a newbie to the industry....I just haven’t figured out that this is just the way it is and O ya I should just be happy to have an offer with such a wonderful company. It is just like UZA said we 'adults' should not be expected to live in a dorm style environment like we did in college. And its people like you BlackBox who just accept these substandard work rules / contracts that make our industry even worse than it already is, O ya great job on negotiating no longer paying out of pocket for training…excuse me if I am not over-impressed. Just because a few other airlines do something doesn’t make it right, dumba**.

 

[Diesel]

When you hire 200hr wonders out of college it's pretty easy to make them pretend it's still college by having them double bunk.

sad just sad

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

Ganja, you buttpirate. Will you please put spaces after the commas in the TYPE column in your profile?

Your friend,

Shy