New Flying for XJet?

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

The way you guys are hiring and upgrading right now I'd give up PBS for your line bidding if it meant getting one list within the next couple months

That ain't gonna happen. Last I heard from an XJT ALPA guy we're looking at early to mid 2013 for round one vote unless something changes. They have negotiated NONE of the big stuff yet. And our MEC and pilot group is too "militant" according to your MEC.

 

[COOPERVANE]

And our MEC and pilot group is too "militant" according to your MEC.

That is exactly what we need. The ASA MEC are a bunch of ego-centric, self important, selfish retards.

I predict SLI around 2017

 

[cybourg10]

That ain't gonna happen. Last I heard from an XJT ALPA guy we're looking at early to mid 2013 for round one vote unless something changes. They have negotiated NONE of the big stuff yet. And our MEC and pilot group is too "militant" according to your MEC.

Wow, early 2011 hires will be holding CA by mid 2013.

 

[blesko]

Am I the only one that feels like crap that we're growing so much and our buddies on the CRJ are hurting? Why not throw them a bone... I'm happy as heck we're growing, upgrading and hiring but they are hurting on the CRJ. And we're a loooong ways from a contract and one list.

appreciate the kind words....it's a class warfare thing mgmt has pitting the groups against each other while mgmt sits and watches, laughs, heads up the mountain to write a new tablet....whatever.

 

[silver02ex]

It is required, it just has to be on the exterior of the plane and not necessarily the nose. After the NWA-DL merger, they put the placards over by the registration numbers, for example.

And Pinnacle put a sign on the side window on the Mesaba's old RJ before they put "Operated by Pinnacle" it was horrible they way they did it, looks lime crap.

 

[777forever]

appreciate the kind words....it's a class warfare thing mgmt has pitting the groups against each other while mgmt sits and watches, laughs, heads up the mountain to write a new tablet....whatever.

Class warfare? Its not management's fault the two MECs can't get along. ASA and XJT are both ALPA. Both MECs should have the same goal in mind. Supposed to be one strong union? Brotherhood? Please. Just a bunch of ego's running into each other.

 

[wt219200]

Wow, early 2011 hires will be holding CA by mid 2013.

Doubt it

 

[JoeMerchant]

The SWA and Air Tran union leadership and pilot groups aren't playing nice in their sandbox. CAL and United MECs are heating up and it is getting ugly over there....How about America West and USair? Sorry, but this "union brotherhood" BS is only believed by those who are peddling the snake oil....The truth is everyone is looking out for number one....and number one ain't you...

Can't blame this on management....They know how to be more unified than we do...

 

[Skaff]

The SWA and Air Tran union leadership and pilot groups aren't playing nice in their sandbox. CAL and United MECs are heating up and it is getting ugly over there....How about America West and USair? Sorry, but this "union brotherhood" BS is only believed by those who are peddling the snake oil....The truth is everyone is looking out for number one....and number one ain't you...

Can't blame this on management....They know how to be more unified than we do...

EXACTLY! And the original Express Jet guys and some of the ASA guys want Skywest to join up and take back seat to them. SkyWest won't join in just to get screwed over.

 

[JoeMerchant]

EXACTLY! And the original Express Jet guys and some of the ASA guys want Skywest to join up and take back seat to them. SkyWest won't join in just to get screwed over.

I'm one of the ASA pilots that wanted a single list with Skywest, but now I don't even want one with the XJT pilots....I understand why you wouldn't want to "join the party"....Many of us at ASA would rather get rid of ALPA and join up with the Skywest pilots rather than join with the XJT pilots...They are too bitter.....ASA pilots have more in common with Skywest pilots than with XJT pilots....

 

[captjim]

I'm one of the ASA pilots that wanted a single list with Skywest, but now I don't even want one with the XJT pilots....I understand why you wouldn't want to "join the party"....Many of us at ASA would rather get rid of ALPA and join up with the Skywest pilots rather than join with the XJT pilots...They are too bitter.....ASA pilots have more in common with Skywest pilots than with XJT pilots....

This one made me come out of the shadows, but YIKES!

 

[rjacobs]

the XJT pilots...They are too bitter

I guess I dont understand this.

How does wanting to better our current contract make us bitter?

How does our MEC being willing to look at and research every thing(specifically PBS vs. line bidding) vs. your MEC refusing to look at and research every thing(again specifically PBS vs. line bidding) make us bitter?

How does our MEC's failure to bow to the companies demands or make concessions make us bitter?

And while I feel bad for you guys losing airplanes while we are gaining a few and gaining block hours and renewing contracts and upgrading and hiring and I could go on, people who have attitudes like yours make me not feel quite as bad. I know you are in the minority in your attitude and opinion, but wow.

 

[Nevets]

The truth is everyone is looking out for number one....and number one ain't you...

You are the epitome of this selfishness.

 

[777forever]

You are the epitome of this selfishness.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house....

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Two 700s already left Asa..

I thought so also but:

looks like 317 is back in ATL and flying ATL-GRK...hmmm