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blesko said:
appreciate the kind words....it's a class warfare thing mgmt has pitting the groups against each other while mgmt sits and watches, laughs, heads up the mountain to write a new tablet....whatever.
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Class warfare? Its not management's fault the two MECs can't get along. ASA and XJT are both ALPA. Both MECs should have the same goal in mind. Supposed to be one strong union? Brotherhood? Please. Just a bunch of ego's running into each other.
 
The SWA and Air Tran union leadership and pilot groups aren't playing nice in their sandbox. CAL and United MECs are heating up and it is getting ugly over there....How about America West and USair? Sorry, but this "union brotherhood" BS is only believed by those who are peddling the snake oil....The truth is everyone is looking out for number one....and number one ain't you...

Can't blame this on management....They know how to be more unified than we do...
 
JoeMerchant said:
The SWA and Air Tran union leadership and pilot groups aren't playing nice in their sandbox. CAL and United MECs are heating up and it is getting ugly over there....How about America West and USair? Sorry, but this "union brotherhood" BS is only believed by those who are peddling the snake oil....The truth is everyone is looking out for number one....and number one ain't you...

Can't blame this on management....They know how to be more unified than we do...
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EXACTLY! And the original Express Jet guys and some of the ASA guys want Skywest to join up and take back seat to them. SkyWest won't join in just to get screwed over.
 
Skaff said:
EXACTLY! And the original Express Jet guys and some of the ASA guys want Skywest to join up and take back seat to them. SkyWest won't join in just to get screwed over.
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I'm one of the ASA pilots that wanted a single list with Skywest, but now I don't even want one with the XJT pilots....I understand why you wouldn't want to "join the party"....Many of us at ASA would rather get rid of ALPA and join up with the Skywest pilots rather than join with the XJT pilots...They are too bitter.....ASA pilots have more in common with Skywest pilots than with XJT pilots....
 
JoeMerchant said:
I'm one of the ASA pilots that wanted a single list with Skywest, but now I don't even want one with the XJT pilots....I understand why you wouldn't want to "join the party"....Many of us at ASA would rather get rid of ALPA and join up with the Skywest pilots rather than join with the XJT pilots...They are too bitter.....ASA pilots have more in common with Skywest pilots than with XJT pilots....
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This one made me come out of the shadows, but YIKES!
 
JoeMerchant said:
the XJT pilots...They are too bitter
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I guess I dont understand this.

How does wanting to better our current contract make us bitter?

How does our MEC being willing to look at and research every thing(specifically PBS vs. line bidding) vs. your MEC refusing to look at and research every thing(again specifically PBS vs. line bidding) make us bitter?

How does our MEC's failure to bow to the companies demands or make concessions make us bitter?

And while I feel bad for you guys losing airplanes while we are gaining a few and gaining block hours and renewing contracts and upgrading and hiring and I could go on, people who have attitudes like yours make me not feel quite as bad. I know you are in the minority in your attitude and opinion, but wow.
 
Stifler's Mom said:
Try reading your company mail. You were told NOT to delete them due to a Jepp error. Jan 5th message from the company.
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Too busy scouring cliches.com and airliners.net for trite sayings and pointless rumors to wow us with. Pity really, he missed out on the one bit of actual work the Walrus has done this year...
 
TEXAN AVIATOR said:
Am I the only one that feels like crap that we're growing so much and our buddies on the CRJ are hurting? Why not throw them a bone... I'm happy as heck we're growing, upgrading and hiring but they are hurting on the CRJ. And we're a loooong ways from a contract and one list.
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Speaking of which, when are YOU going to upgrade, or are you waiting until they slap some big ol' knobby tires and Flowmasters on a 145 before you take off your skirt and grab the tiller, you big pansy! I heard they're bringing back the 135, next thing you know, they'll be hauling pax in old Geronimos to Easterwood!

You know I had to mess with you, how are things going on the ERJ side of things? It's not as bad as it could be over here, at least we're not furloughing like we thought they might, for now.

I think things will be getting better for everybody by early next year, if not sooner (I hope). Funny how we ended up working for the same airline after all!
 
Bs

waterskier said:
Heard a rumor that potential new hires are being told that we might be getting some of the Mesa's USAir flying.

Anybody care to comment on this?
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This is complete BS. Mesa's contract with Airways are guaranteed through June of 2015. Mesa is exceeding all performance expectations, and just completed upgrading all the aircraft to all leather cabins and F/C seating.

Not suprised, but dissappointed by this post none the less. You diminish the word professional.
 

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