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[7777]

What is MARTA?

 

[SKYLAWYER]

What is MARTA?

Georgias public transportation system. They are referring to taking the train a couple of stops from one airport to another. The conductor always looks like he's been in the gym alot. My guess is they are all from a prison release program or wearing a bullet proof vest. Official company word is no-one HAS to take the Marta if they don't want to. Some guys still think it'll get them somewhere. Most of us will never come close to getting on it. The Marta was suggested years ago by a crewmember who said it was "GREAT AND CHEAP". The company decided to try it out and the riot ensued shortly after. Now it still shows on the trip itenaray but 99% of our guys take a cab and the company ALWAYS pays without any questions.

 

[7777]

Thanks again Sky. Appreciate the information.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

The marta as a form of acceptable transportation? Are you friggin kidding me? Has anyone in the office at CS actually ridden on Marta? Or are they just thinking outside the box of cheap?

The fractional world depends a lot on crew input. All of the companies from NJ, Flex, CS, etc have to take some input from crewmembers about our operation area as its virtually impossible to visit every hotel, FBO, andsample every caterer. This is the result of a crewmember who probably should not hold a medical giving a suggestion. They ran with it and quickly realised almost every other person in the company hated it. It happens a lot with us from hotels, to best airports to clear customs. We talk they listen and sometimes they listen to the village idiot.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

Thanks again Sky. Appreciate the information.

No problem 7777, You've been in the military the Marta should be a breeze. :beer:

It's us civilian guys who get nervous when all the explosions start to happen, and the other passengers are carrying AK47's and shoulder mounted rocket launchers.

 

[7777]

LOL, that still makes me nervous. That never goes away.

 

[xpdriver]

I would say you guys still dont need a union. Looks like to me MGMT is taken care of themselves, I mean the pilots.....Still Trust Them????:laugh:

 

[SKYLAWYER]

I would say you guys still dont need a union. Looks like to me MGMT is taken care of themselves, I mean the pilots.....Still Trust Them????:laugh:

AWWWW, the un-invited union plug. Took longer than I exspected.

 

[xpdriver]

AWWWW, the un-invited union plug. Took longer than I exspected.

Somebody had to say it...You guys will just sit there and let them do what ever they want....Next to come......8 on 6 off.. and you pay 50% medical...

"i still believe MGMT loves us"

PS: spell check...

 

[RCA]

Somebody had to say it...You guys will just sit there and let them do what ever they want....Next to come......8 on 6 off.. and you pay 50% medical...

"i still believe MGMT loves us"

PS: spell check...[/quote

Actually... next to come...reducing the scheduled duty day from 14 hours to 12.

Thanks for being Concerned.

RCA

 

[7777]

What would be wrong with an 8 and 6 schedule if the pay goes with it? Sign me up please.

After 6 days at home, my wife would be showing me the door.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

Somebody had to say it...You guys will just sit there and let them do what ever they want....Next to come......8 on 6 off.. and you pay 50% medical...

"i still believe MGMT loves us"

PS: spell check...

What do you care? Who died and made you or your company the united nations of fractional flying? Have you been on the CS IBT message board? Do you have any idea what stance me or anyone else in a CS uniform feels about the idea of a union at CS? Why does NJ pilots feel the need to lecture on the need for a union? Mind NJ's business, Flex will mind Flex business, Shares will mind shares business and everyone will be the merrier. Great people and organizations set unspoken examples. If the example is good enough people will decide to follow. Small minded people feel the need to constantly let people know how great things are. I will let you categorize yourself accordingly.

 

[milky]

I rode MARTA as my primary transportation when I was going to GT. I was never overly scared on there. I would rather take MARTA across town than ride in a taxi during rush hour. Non-rush hour, I think I would take the taxi. Unless something has drastically changed, MARTA (train, not buses) is usually full enough of normal people that you can avoid the weirdos relatively easily. I would definitely want the option not to ride it, though. I didn't enjoy riding it as much in the later hours of the night, though I did it plenty of times.

 

[dime line]

I rode MARTA as my primary transportation when I was going to GT. I was never overly scared on there. I would rather take MARTA across town than ride in a taxi during rush hour. Non-rush hour, I think I would take the taxi. Unless something has drastically changed, MARTA (train, not buses) is usually full enough of normal people that you can avoid the weirdos relatively easily. I would definitely want the option not to ride it, though. I didn't enjoy riding it as much in the later hours of the night, though I did it plenty of times.

You fly the richest people in the world, enjoy MARTA

 

[7777]

Hey Milky, who are those guys in your Avatar? Is that you on the left in uniform? If so, who is the guy on your left?

 

[xpdriver]

What do you care? Who died and made you or your company the united nations of fractional flying? Have you been on the CS IBT message board? Do you have any idea what stance me or anyone else in a CS uniform feels about the idea of a union at CS? Why does NJ pilots feel the need to lecture on the need for a union? Mind NJ's business, Flex will mind Flex business, Shares will mind shares business and everyone will be the merrier. Great people and organizations set unspoken examples. If the example is good enough people will decide to follow. Small minded people feel the need to constantly let people know how great things are. I will let you categorize yourself accordingly.

I make these comments because i care about the industry.... I want to see the next contract be better than ours...then the next better than the last...and so on.....I don't know how people feel on the CS ibt board,were not allowed on...All i can go on is the people on this board and in the FBOs...And i still hear guys say that they are being taken care of.(I hope it stays) PS: what examples are you setting..seems to me that you are just following..not raising the bar..

 

[SKYLAWYER]

I make these comments because i care about the industry.... I want to see the next contract be better than ours...then the next better than the last...and so on.....I don't know how people feel on the CS ibt board,were not allowed on...All i can go on is the people on this board and in the FBOs...And i still hear guys say that they are being taken care of.(I hope it stays) PS: what examples are you setting..seems to me that you are just following..not raising the bar..

NJ's had a bottom feeder contract for years. CS came on the block and raised the bar and surpassed your pay and benefits package for quite some time. Your last two contracts have once again made you a industry leading carrier. Let's not pretend you guys have been holding that stick forever. I can dig up all the posts on this board about why someone should never come to NJ's. Your guys would tell applicants that they were insane to ever consider that place. As a pilot group you managed to work through that difficult time. Allow the CS pilots to take the course they find necessary as well. I left my hotel and visited your informal picketing line years ago to show my support. That's action, not posting on some board about how great of a job you guys are doing raising the bar. Forgive the guys/gals at the FBO for trying to be positive about the things that are going on @ CS. You can vote yes while being positive and you can vote yes while being a grumpy old hag. The second yes voter is usually annoying everyone. I prefer the first.
P.S - I wonder what examples you guys used when negotiating for the first pay increase that finally paid you more than CS? MMMMMMM........

 

[7777]

I have a very good friend that I flew with in the military that has been at NetJets for 8 years now. He used to call me and tell me NOT to come to NetJets. Other than pay, when I asked what sucked so bad, he stated the people doing the scheduling and the like were PITA and hard to work with. He was there long enough where the 5 base scenario didn't affect him because he had been grandfathered in. It really boiled down to pay and the scheduling folks.

Based on what he told me, you are correct Sky.

 

[milky]

Hey Milky, who are those guys in your Avatar? Is that you on the left in uniform? If so, who is the guy on your left?

That was taken with Tom from Blink 182 (formerly now, I guess). They came and did a concert in the hanger bay when we were in the gulf back in '03.

 

[7777]

I was over there then. Was that down at Doha?