Netjets layoff now??

[ArtVandalay]

It's not a rumor. I'm just relaying what he told me. If you want to call it "BS", go ahead and be a mental midget you prick.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

That depends on the state you live in. I don't think it is a percentage of salary, 5 years ago I was getting the max that the state I lived in payed, something like $350. a week.

Thanks.. and ouch: $350/week...guess we'll have to stop eating at Mortons or Ruth's Chris every night..j/k
I do live in Minnesota--one of the most liberal states around (very pro-social programs).. perhaps that translates into good unemployment credit.

XPdriver's post is rather encouraging.. one can hope.

 

[xpdriver]

It's not a rumor. I'm just relaying what he told me. If you want to call it "BS", go ahead and be a mental midget you prick.

Its not being discussed....Can it happen? ofcourse... When you get info from RTS and JC then I would say its alittle better then some ACP or who ever thinks they know...
But you believe what you want...And I did call it BS........

 

[x402]

It's not a rumor. I'm just relaying what he told me. If you want to call it "BS", go ahead and be a mental midget you prick.

Art,
Sorry Flex has cut deeper into the pilot group, I wish everyone the best going forward.
If the time comes, you and B19 can leap to your soap boxes and scream 'I told you so!!!!!'

We have hundreds of guys worried about their jobs, it's the business. Threads like this, that YOU began, feed that fear. Believe me, they know. So don't be surprised if we don't fawn over your 'connections' in the company.

 

[Eot Sugnuf]

I have a close friend in NJA management and he acknowledges they are pretty much the last to know anything. Anyone who posts "inside information" on an anonymous board is just looking to stir the pot. Reacting to their BS just feeds their childish need for attention.

 

[jonjuan]

He is wrong..From the horses mouth..Not laying off unless we are in a Depression...lots of things in the hopper..Keep your rumor BS to yourself....

Middle MGMT... what a bunch of clowns

LOL-so who is the "horse" in this case? Lots of things in the hopper- uh huh.....

 

[fischman]

No furloughs at NetJets. The rumor is incorrect, completely false, and utter BS.

Art, please try to verify before posting this kind of stuff. As said earlier, it only feeds fear that is unnecessary, and in my opinion hurts all involved.

Not cool. And I know cool, for I am awesome.

 

[brokeflyer]

its amazing how many people wanna see us fail.

No wonder this industry is in the toilet.

 

[bluepost]

Just like Southwest.....waiting, waiting, waiting for them to stumble even though they are the highest paid (for their equip), and have always been treated with respect from the company....meanwhile people would get all excited when Northwest would post a tiny profit, or would say the beatings would stop.

This industry just absolutely sucks right now....layoffs, furloughs, terminations, benefit reductions, displacements, downgrades....absolutely brutal.

 

[Club ORD FO]

well if you guys are not laying off, the you have to agree you must me losing a ton of money. Surely you are losing owners, not flying as much, and are over staffed.

 

[gunfyter]

I would agree that the only reason there is no furlough is they do not want to furlough. They could if they wanted to.

 

[JokerFuel]

I don't care who you are or who you work for. I hope the very best for the guys at NetJets. You guys raised the bar. We couldn't stand on our own to demand better here at Flex, and it wasn't until you guys did, that we saw improvement. Wishing bad will on anyone is just bad mojo, and making anybody any more uncomfortable in this economic climate just plain sucks. I have a wife and kid at home who I hope to support for the long term, and I know that most of us have the same obligations and fear for the future. There is'nt anything I can do to make this whole situation better for myself , or anyone else,for that matter. I wish I could. But spreading fear and disinformation is exactly what the higher ups like to see. An intimidated work force is plyable. Scared employes will do and agree to most sacrifices just to ensure their own personal security. If there is an impression that the ship is sinking, then all hands onboard for the bail-out. Enough with the cliches, you all know what I'm getting at. Now, more than ever is the time for us to join in solidarity. Stop the fear mongering.

 

[x402]

well if you guys are not laying off, the you have to agree you must me losing a ton of money. Surely you are losing owners, not flying as much, and are over staffed.

No sane NJA pilot would comment on your speculation.

 

[pilotyip]

Would not if NJ is approaching a lay off, put everyone on a 7-7 schedule and not pay the extra for the 17-18 schedule prior to starting a lay off. I know there has been an increase in at home standby.

 

[brokeflyer]

well if you guys are not laying off, the you have to agree you must me losing a ton of money. Surely you are losing owners, not flying as much, and are over staffed.

well gladly not yet. We're not losing money in the sence that you think we have less coming in than going out. But we are making less money, meaning we aint seeing 250 million per qtr in profit anymore.

 

[captain dad]

Sticking your head in the sand and saying that furloughs can't happen is shortsighted and naive.

Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. Right now there are no plans to furlough. There are many things that would have to happen before they would resort to furloughs. I don't think it will come to that but it could if this lasts longer than expected. Anything is possible in aviation.

Good luck to all pilots and fly safe.

 

[gunfyter]

Would not if NJ is approaching a lay off, put everyone on a 7-7 schedule and not pay the extra for the 17-18 schedule prior to starting a lay off. I know there has been an increase in at home standby.

The union and the company are cooperating to reduce man-days to more closely match demand. We don't know any details yet. They said no concessions so I think that means voluntary measures like BuyOuts or LOAs.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Don't get me wrong, I don't wish layoffs on anyone and I don't wish nj to fail, contrary to what some of you say.
What I do wish for is for some courtesy in the FBO's from you guys. I don't need to hear, "So, I hear you guys are laying off". Instead it would be nice to hear a "how are you doing" or "whats up" before you stab me with the 'you're laying off and we're not' talk.

 

[brokeflyer]

then tell the guys that.....coming on here isnt gonna do anything.....just ask porter.

 

[CA1900]

I don't need to hear, "So, I hear you guys are laying off".

Uhh... Art? That's exactly what you did here: "Just talked to a buddy at NJ and he says he's hearing you guys are going to layoff now."

Instead it would be nice to hear a "how are you doing" or "whats up" before you stab me with the 'you're laying off and we're not' talk.

That's exactly how I'd talk to you, and I wouldn't even mention a layoff. I have very good friends from both Flex and Options who are out of work right now. It's not a topic I bring up.


On a completely different topic, if you guys have an internal message board or something, you might want to remind your folks not to leave their brief sheets lying around the FBO. (I'll omit the details; I don't want to get anybody in trouble.)